USANA claims $616.72 was the average commission paid out if all 135,590 associates in the North American region are considered for 2011. Multiplying those two numbers together gives the total amount paid in commissions, which is $83.6 million.
In the chart, USANA shows that gold directors makes up 0.5% of everyone, which comes out to 677 associates if you multiply the 0.5% in the "of everyone" column by the total 135,590 associates. USANA also shows for the Gold Directors the percentage of Full-Time associates it represents, which is 67%. Now if you want to know the number of associates in the Ruby, Emerald, Diamond, and Star Diamond categories you simply multiple the percent of full-time for the category, multiply it by the number of Gold director associates and divide it by 67%. Now we have the number of associates for each leadership ranking from Gold Director on up to the Star Diamond Directors, which comes out to about 1009 associates.
USANA states in the report that $76,000 is the yearly average income for a full-time associate. Now multiply the $76,000 by the 1009 full-time associates, which comes out to $76.7 million.
$76.7 million for Full-time associates divided by the $83.6 total commissions paid is about 92%, which is the percentage of commissions paid to less than 1% of all associates.
Interestingly enough, USANA did not even update the report this year to show 2012 figures. Either USANA made a huge mistake in their report, or they do not want to publish any more distributor data that shows how little the majority of distributors make, which is virtually nothing. Certainly not enough to cover the required product purchases every 4-weeks.
Can USANA simply disclose the figures as they once did in their 2005 and 2006 North American Average Total Earnings report by showing the number of associates in each leadership rankings along with the total commission paid out in each of those levels instead of presenting a table that only shows theoretical figures that represents a very small percentage of each leadership level? Or is that just too much to ask?
Yup. It's definitely not a get rich scheme, and definitely not the lottery jackpot...Still better ods though.
ReplyDelete1 in 100 active associates have a chance to make tens or hundred of thousands of extra income.
1 in 10 active associated have a chance to make a couple of thousand dollars extra.
The rest will happily use the product and work toward that 1 in a 100 and the 1 in 10 statistic (they joined because of the product in the first place, right?)
And just to point out a clear fact: you can just use the product, it is not mandatory to make a business out of it. And if you do, you have a clear breakdown of your chances to succeed as described above! Enjoy the rest of the comments, hopefully they'll steer clear of "oh my god it is a scam" and "oh my god I've been brainwashed". As you can see the percentage of who is winning what is clearly indicated in the table, table which was taken directly from Usana website, opportunity section. Cheers!
Oh look... another associate lying and struggling to put a positive spin on more proof that Usana is a scam. What, are you hoping people will just read your comment and not look at the actual table? It clearly says that only 1% of ALL associates qualify as gold director or above, and 1% of ALL usana associates does not even come close to "1 in a 100" as you say.
DeleteBy the way, adding "cheers' to the end of your scam doesn't make it any less scummy, false enthusiasm just shows everyone that you're trying to hide something.
Lol. Way to go! - "1% of ALL usana associates does not even come close to "1 in a 100" as you say."
DeleteI'd say you just failed the mathematical question...you know, that thing that gets asked when claiming a prize.
USANA Associate Claims: 1 in 10 active associated have a chance to make a couple of thousand dollars extra.
DeleteIf that were true, the remaining 90% do NOT have a chance. You are okay with that?
Remember, out of 135,590 total distributors in the North American average earnings report for 2011, 1009 distributors received a total of $76.6 million. Now there are 134,581 associates left and $6.9 million left in commissions to disperse. In order for a distributor to recover their MINIMUM required product purchases necessary to participate in the USANA business opportunity and be commission eligible, they must make no less than $1560 in commission for the year. Do you agree? So if you divide the remaining $6.9 million by $1560, you get about 4450 distributors which is bias toward the high side because we are assuming no other distributor gets a commission. 4450 is 3.2% of the total. Add this to the Gold Directors and up and the absolute maximum number of associates that can at least recover the required purchase amount to participate is 4%. Again, this made many assumptions in USANA's favor.
So your "1 in 10" (or 10%) is incorrect. It's worse than that. And as I keep stating, 99% of USANA distributors do not make a profit.
USANA Associate Claims: you can just use the product, it is not mandatory to make a business out of it.
I would like you to call the Internal Revenue Service and tell them that. USANA associates signed a business contract with the intent to make money. Otherwise they would have joined as a "preferred customer".
Speaking of preferred customers, do you know that the average amount of product purchased by a preferred customer is only $50 every 4 weeks? Apparently when a person only purchases product because they want to personally use it, they only spend $50 on average. This blows away the idea that USANA distributors purchase the $100+ amount of product every 4 weeks only because they "want" it. Fact remains, it is a USANA requirement to participate. You have to PAY TO PLAY. Can you say pyramid scheme?
You can't even make up your mind...are you analysing the table numbers or are you yet again pulling numbers which just seem convenient to you. It wouldn't be the first time...
DeleteWhat are you even babling about in your second point...seriously, I'd say that you have a big diconnect watchdog. You got stuck on the same subject for too long, no wonder all your comments are rhetoric.
By the way, nothing will change the positive feedback received on product trials.
In response to "You can't even make up your mind...are you analysing the table numbers or are you yet again pulling numbers which just seem convenient to you."
DeleteAll the figures I mentioned came from the 2011 North American Average Total Earnings document. What numbers do you think I'm just pulling for my own convenience?
In response to "What are you even babling about in your second point."
I was responding to the claim that someone can just use the products without making a business out of it. So I suggested they tell that to the IRS. You see, you can't become a USANA associate just to purchase products for your personal use and then try to get tax advantages for it when you never had an intent to make money at it. USANA's ex-phoney CPA Gil Fuller (yes, he lied about being a CPA) once claimed that 80% of USANA associates are a volunteer army, implying that they didn't join for the business, but for the product. That right there could have sparked a massive audit by the IRS on USANA associates. So if you don't intend to make a business out of your USANA distributorship, then let the IRS know so they can audit you... That was my point.
Then I wanted to through in the point about preferred customers, which are actual USANA customers who purchase the product without the intent to make any money. The point was to show that those who only want the product purchase much less product than USANA associates. In fact, about $50 was the average for a preferred customer. So why does USANA require distributors with one business center to purchase about $110 worth of product every 4 weeks and distributors with multiple business centers to purchase $220 worth of product every 4 weeks? It's called inventory loading. USANA associates always claim it's because they want the product. Yet, if that were really true, then they would only be personally purchasing about $50 worth of product every 4 weeks.
So the mandatory requirement for USANA associates to personally purchase a ridiculous amount of product every 4 weeks is inventory loading and is what drives the entire pyramid scheme. If it was not a requirement, then USANA would be out of business. This goes for all MLM companies.
Wathcdog, take the part time associates percentage and add it. That's a clear 10% which is 1 in 10...so why the long post about a clear table number ? I'm not even considering those that break even or those that make a partial return on their cost.
DeleteSo, according to this simple fact, you still went on contradicting something which was simply pulled out of your table.
To you second point, if somebody joins, they do join to make extra money, even if it is a super low amount because they are already using that associate minimum requirement, and....I hope they don't inventory load! This would be plainly stupid. You could always argue that a prefered customer are using in average less and it is the reason why they did not consider joining (the smart way which avoids inventory loading and which still gets them prefered prices). Anyone that cannot calculate risks and ROI should steer clear on any business, MLM or other.
This proves the point that anyone that went into this business, did inventory loading, failed to have a return and are now frustated can only blame themselves for making this choice! But, by human nature, it is much easier to blame others and avoid accountability. Sounds familiar ?
You do realize the implications of what you just said, right?
Delete"1. 1 in 100 active associates have a chance to make tens or hundred of thousands of extra income.
2. 1 in 10 active associated have a chance to make a couple of thousand dollars extra."
The first statement implies that the remaining 99 out of the 100 associates have NO chance to make the same amount. Yes, this translates to a 99 percent failure rate.
The second statement implies that 9 out of 10 associates have NO chance of making the same amount you mentioned, and this translates to a 90-percent failure rate.
Given, there will always be risks in putting up businesses or going into different ventures. Even employment involves some risk, as there is always a chance that an employee would be sacked or that a company will go bankrupt. However, I don't think it is correct to promote this type of venture without explicitly informing the guests of how much risk is involved. Yes, it is good to play up the benefits. After all, these will be the grounds for going into such a venture. However, urging the guests to act almost on impulse (that is, right after a presentation), without telling that person to make informed decisions, is quite deceptive.
I was given a presentation fairly recently, and I have to admit that the compensation offered was very attractive. However, I found it a bit off that I was being urged to invest immediately, even going so far as likening the situation to an emergency (you spend this much money on emergencies anyway, or if it's an emergency you can come up with this much money. Surely you can come up with it for an investment.) I find this distasteful. Whatever happened to encouraging people to invest only if they have extra money, since these types of ventures have a lot of risk involved?
In addition, there is no mention of doing some research first to get an understanding of the pros and the cons. More informed and naturally skeptic people would do the research on their own, but what about those who are easily blinded or influenced? Is it fair to just recruit them and lead them to believe that they can earn big, too, when their chances of earning big money is only 10 percent at best? (A piece of information, btw, that is withheld or grossly downplayed)
Okay, so the chances for success here are higher than that for the lottery. The difference with the lottery is that when you place your bet, you know exactly what you are signing up for: that your chances of winning are virtually zero, and that winning here is actually not easy. With this type of scheme that USANA (or most MLM companies use), you are made to believe that succeeding is easy and that the chances of failing are close to non-existent.
Yup
ReplyDeleteThe one in one hundred theory is not explained to the Usana associates when they sign up. You have intentionally mislead people to make a profit. You have committed fraud. The Usana table is grossly misleading. It is not shown to the participants when they sign up. The purpose of the watchdog blog is to warn people and expose this fraud.
Usana is a get rich scheme!
One in ten do not make a small profit. But even if they did it does not make it right.
You are describing Usana as a lottery when you say one in ten have a chance.. They do not. The outcome is predetermined. The people on top of the pyramid are the winners and are cheating everybody they sign up. You are preying on people for your own benefit. You are selling a false dream. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You think its all ok, because you give everyone $20 dollars worth of vitamins for $100. . People will read this bog. and find out that your cheated them. They will be angry. You should pack up your medicine wagon and get out of town!
Do you know who was put in your up-line today?
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Sighs...So outdated..."You should pack up your medicine wagon and get out of town."
DeleteAnd so much non-sense..."One in ten do not make a small profit. But even if they did it does not make it right.You are describing Usana as a lottery when you say one in ten have a chance.. They do not. The outcome is predetermined. "
Advice to the poster above, known by "Do you know who was put in your up-line today?", Don't bother with anything where a prize is involved, you'll fail the mathematical question." Enough said.
MLM schemes are pure evil.
DeleteThey prey on the people who can't afford to waste money by selling them a false dream of getting rich.
Forget the products (whether they be Amway, Herbalife, or Nuskin), they're nothing special.
I believe anybody who is stupid enough to buy into the usana scam deserves to be scammed. Good for you Watchdog for the blog, however it is more entertaining to watch these imbociles buy into the whole MLM crap. I say let them, nod your head and sit back and enjoy the show... I even have popcorn...
ReplyDeleteYou know, you may be right in one aspect of your comment. Staying on the side lines can be beneficial for you. Afterall, I wouldn't expect an opinionated person such as you to be part of that 1% with multiple digits income that watchdog is babling about in every post. Oh, enjoy the show and well...just keep eating your popcorn. You'll be just fine. ;)
DeleteYep... I shall... I eat popcorn and take no vitamins and im still fitter, stronger and faster than most Usana associates I meet... The trick is exercise and lots of it.... Oh and water too...
Deletei don't think you would have enough popcorn for about 10 years to see those people climb, correction, claw their way up to be part of the 1% with multiple digits income....
Deletei guess i would take my chances on a real career.
I drink water.
I love the product. Whether it is a scam or not, the product changed my health status. I suggest you should try to take the product first before making such arguments. Or may be because your were an associate before and lost your guts thats why your making these blog thing. Did it change your financial status in doing such thing? Did you earn a million dollar or hundred? I don't think so. Here in the Philippines, Usana is listed in PPD (Philippine Pharmaceutical Directory), meaning the doctors and pharmacist could recommend this product to their patient.
ReplyDeleteMy family and I have tried Usana, and we have not experienced anything different. They're just supplements and should not replace food.
DeleteRead this article too.
http://ethicalnag.org/2011/12/04/john-cloud-time-3000-pills/
Usana is just a pyramid scheme.
How bad was your health Alfie for Usana's products to have changed it?
DeleteAlfie, you must be a distributor because you're using the same lines that I've seen in countless other places. Instead of countering the information provided you claim that the person writing the report is a failed distributor. It goes to show how true these claims are that you have to resort to ad hominem's (fictitious ones at that) in order distract from the fact you're engaged in a pyramid scheme.
DeleteI suspect your health claims are erroneous since all available medical evidence from independent researchers have indicated that Usana products offer nothing exceptional over generic brands you can buy in store.
Their being included in the PPD means that they paid to be included in the PPD. It has nothing to do with being doctor recommended. It's the same story with the PDR. It's not a medical endorsement, it's a compendium of available products being advertised by their manufacturers to doctors.
I don't understand why you target strictly this one company? Do you have a watch list for every company? Or is USANA the only "Pyramid Scheme"?
ReplyDeleteWatchdog is focusing on Usana. There are other blogs such as "Amway - Dream or Scheme" that focuses on other MLMs.
ReplyDeleteMLM companies, in which you are paid mainly to recruit, are really disguised pyramid schemes.
I was invited to attend a presentation of USANA in last week, some gold and diamond directors said to me that if I joined, I would get huge benefits such as: tax deduction, claim back the total cost of the enrollment pack (the first order), 50-75% of the autoship, good commission rate, a portion of my expenses for business rental, 100% of food and drink for business activities, 100% of all travel costs (airfares, accommodation, transportation) and so on....
ReplyDeleteIs it a scam or not?? Has anyone heard about that?? Please advise me ... Thanks a lot
Can anybody help me about this case please??? Do they really pay for all expenses for associates business activities? Or is it a scam? Thank you ....
DeleteSome tax deductions yes. Claim back the total cost of the enrollment pack, doubtful. 50-75% of the autoship? Absolutely not. More like 0% unless you give them away as free samples, in which you can deduct a small percentage. You cannot deduct the autoship if you personally consume the products and if you resell it you can't deduct something you sold.
DeleteGood Commission Rate?? Absolutely not. You don't get paid any commission for any product you resell. You only get commission from your downline associate's purchases or preferred customer purchases. They purchase $450 worth of product and if you're lucky you will have the points on both of your downline legs (Left and Right). In this case you would have 200 on each side and receive a $20 commission from a $450 sale. But you can't get any commission unless you personally purchase at least $120 worth of product every 4 weeks.
Portion of your expenses for business rental? small portion.
100% of food and drinks for business activities? Absolutely not. If you have lunch with someone that you try to recruit and you purchase their meal, you can deduct a small percentage of the cost of THEIR meal, not yours.
100% of all travel costs? No way! You can deduct a small percentage as part of a business expense, but you'll still pay a lot out of pocket.
Those USANA distributors fed you a lot of half truths. You better discuss this with a certified public accountant that isn't trying to scam you into his downline.
What were the names of the Diamond Directors?
Did you know that USANA has 236 Diamond Directors world wide? Did they try to make you believe you could be like them? So only 0.015% of people that joined USANA ever reached the rank of a Diamond Director.
Hi Watchdog,
DeleteYou may have made a small calculation error. If a Business Centre had 200 GSV points on their left and right legs, they would be entitled to a 40 CPV points right?
Thanks.
Thank you very much Mr. Watch Dog, I really appreciate it.
DeleteYou are correct. It would be $40 from 200 points on the left and 200 points on the right. Sorry about that.
DeleteSo your downline spends about $450 for 400 total points that pays you $40... That's about 8.8% of the sale price. However, USANA spends about 45% of their net sales as commission and bonuses to the distributors. So why only 8.8% to the associate I mention? The rest goes to the upper echelon who has tens of thousands of distributors in their downline.
In the case of an upper echelon, A 5-Star Diamond Director might have 100,000 distributors in their downline. Maybe 9 business centers maxed out. They would receive $11,250 plus Matching Bonus commission plus Elite Bonus commission plus Leadership Bonus commission. In the end they could receive over $35,000 from 90,000 Group Sales Points. That's 33% of the sale price of the product their downline purchased.
So the incentive is to recruit new distributors who have to purchase product themselves in order to participate and make commissions from their own downlines and so on and so on. The one of the top gets most of the commission. Those at the bottom don't get any commission. Those in between get varying amounts of commission, but not enough to cover the cost of doing the business in the first place.
And while it may look simple when throwing numbers around like 400 group sales volume points for $40 in commission, in order to get those 400 points you need to spend a considerable amount of time, energy, and money to find people who are willing to either buy over priced product, or to join after being misled about the potential earnings.
Sorry for this long drawn out response.
Hi, USana has the best compensation plan so far and products are the best and good quality! It is not a scam because its legal, NYSE listed! U can contact me for more details @allets_eiram94@yahoo.com
DeleteMany companies listed on the stock exchange have been shut down for being scams. Perhaps you meant to write "It is not a scam because 99% of USANA sales representatives are happy losing money in USANA."
DeleteUSANA Watch Dog: I appreciate your analysis of the earnings PDF. I noticed though that when I calculated the figures myself, if you take the supposed number of associates in each bracket, and multiply by the "annual average" in that bracket, the total commissions are far more than the 83.6M, almost 4 times that in fact.
ReplyDeleteThen I noticed the footnote 1: To be considered in a rank’s earnings, Associates must have earned checks at a median rank for at least 20 weeks.
So they are essentially straight-up lying about the average annual salary of people in each rank. in truth, the average salary of the individuals in each group is less than one third of the posted salaries, as there is only 83.6M to go around. It is just deception on top of deception. I think this warrants mention in your post!
You are correct. I did mention that very fact in a response to a comment about this chart, but it was on a different article that I posted. I can't keep track of all the comments and where they are when I respond to them.
DeleteUSANA has been using this format for several years as well. They let the "Independent Distributor Council" create the Earnings report. These people cannot do math correctly and USANA just publishes the garbage.
I ran some numbers last night and USANA has only 2585 "full-time" (Gold Directors or higher) distributors WORLD WIDE. Considering the fact USANA has had over 1.6 million distributors over the course of 21 years, that's only 0.16% of their total distributors. I will publish a full breakdown of these numbers, and show in what country they are in.
It is also more likely that about 40% of the commissions were paid to the full-time distributors which means the yearly average commission for a full-time distributor drops to $33,000 instead of the $76,000 USANA claims.
Aside from the earnings report, USANA only discloses active associates (defined as someone who simply purchases a product instead of those meeting their 100 PSV minimal purchase requirement) for a 3 month period. So when USANA claims there are 245,000 active associates, that's true for 3 months. However, my calculations (and I will show them later) using several different methods all yield a yearly active associate figure exceeding 400,000 active associates. This is because there is a very high dropout rate, which USANA does not disclose other than stating they have a high turnover rate.
If USANA simply disclosed actual numbers instead of trying to hide every little detail about their business, less people would join the pyramid scheme. If USANA had to actually disclose the fact that 99% of their distributors don't make a profit, then nobody would join. If my statement of a 99% profitless rate is not true, then USANA can refute it by disclosing the facts.
Challenge to USANA: Disclose the WORLD-WIDE associate numbers of those who purchased product any time during the year. Show them where they are in the leadership ranking including those that are not yet ranked. Then show the total commission paid out to each of the leadership rankings. Do not exclude any of the associates from the table. Also show the average commission paid out if you omit the top 1%, 3%, and 5% of associates. Also for each leadership ranking, show the total amount of product they personally purchased for the year.
Do that and nobody would join. The cat would be out of the bag and the pyramid scheme would collapse. It would show that 99% do not make a profit.
Dear author,
DeleteThank you for ur time and effort. Please continue to enlighten the Filipino people.
You guys are over complicating things way to much, which is confusing everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe math is quite simple actually, you don't even need Usana reports! Just common sense, granted from what I see here, it is not so common afterall!
Let's make it simple:
100 points minimum purchase, monthly = $135
1350 points: required volume to break even (675 left, 675 right, 20% commission of any branch = 135 points=$135......not rocket science, right ?)
1350 points = roughly 14 products each to be sold monthly=roughly 4 products to be sold weekly
All retail sales are considered for commission! (Only autoship is not considered; the 100 points minimal purchase).
Now, in which retail business you break even at 14 products sold monthly !?
Why all the complex calculations on associates, payment figures, binary structures when the above is a clear, simple and concise calculation...without considering even one single associate in your downline!?
Enough said! Enjoy!
100 points minimum purchase, every 4 weeks (13 times a year) = $124 + shipping ($135).
DeleteYour downline or preferred customers must purchase $1674 worth of product during that 4 week period. You must have your downline "balanced" since commissions are paid based on the lowest volume of one of your legs. 675 points on the left and right and 10% based on the sum of the two (1350 * 10% = $135.00).
Throughout the year, your downline needs to purchase $21,762 just so you can cover the mandatory product purchase expense of $1755. You still have a slew of other business expenses to cover.
Retail sales are a myth in USANA. Hardly anyone does it because it is very difficult to convince someone you meet to purchase overpriced vitamin supplements, especially at a price more than the preferred customers already pay, which is the distributor's cost. So there is zero profit margin. There is no incentive to recruiting preferred customers because their purchases don't pay commissions to the upline, so the emphasis put on USANA distributors is to sell a business opportunity to new people and recruit them into the scheme and have them do the same, go out and find more people to recruit. The product is only the token to play the game. If you take the product out of the mix, even USANA distributors admit it would be a pyramid scheme. So why should having a product make any difference? The loss rates are 99%.
USANA tries to sell the idea that all you have to do is recruit two. If everyone did that, in a matter of weeks the whole world would be recruited. However, there is a 80% drop out rate. Most people do not join. Most people believe MLMs are pyramid schemes.
Good luck selling the product.
It took a long post to arrive at the same conclusion...even though you make it sound big in your yearly calculations! Truth is, besides your own personal view on this business, you did not provide any tangible proof that would contradict my position!
DeleteRetail is possible, retail must be the goal, positive feedback is constantly received during product trials!
You are leading a campaign of misinformation, bloating simple figures as the one I've stated above, you are using negative and opinion based propaganda to mislead the readers!
Enough said! See my post above, it is a very simple statement, contrary to all the posts ever posted by Watchdog. Enjoy!
Not the same conclusion. Much worse. What you fail to acknowledge is reality. What seems to work on paper does not work for USANA associates and is why close to 1.6 million USANA distributors have failed to make a profit. After 21 years USANA has been in operation there are only 2585 USANA distributors that are Gold Directors or higher. 85% of people who joined USANA as a distributor no longer purchase USANA product (245,000 associates from Q3 divided by estimated 1,600,000 associates since 1992).
DeleteYou and USANA would only like the general public to focus on their "simple calculation". Sell retail and keep the profits (except the preferred customers get the product at the same cost as distributors, so the profit margin has been set to ZERO). Recruit others and their purchases will pay you commissions (never mind the 80% dropout rate and the fact that when dropouts return the product it is deducted from your commissions). Never mind that 99% of USANA distributors fail to make a profit.
I never said it was impossible to make money in USANA. But in order to do so, you'll likely have to swindle others into the same scam you've gotten yourself into. The likelihood of USANA distributors selling supplements retail for a profit margin is slim to none.
Lets look at it the realistic way.
DeleteLets say you spend $130 (100 volume points) each 4 week period for the right to participate in USANA's compensation plan.
You need 1300 Group Sales Volume to be generated by your downline distributors.
If each distributor purchases their 100 volume point requirement just like you did, then you will need at least 13 distirbutors in your downline who purchase 1300 points during the 4 week period. This will pay you the $130 in commission.
Great, you covered your cost of your mandatory product purchases, but the remaining 13 distributors in your downline will not.
Recruit a million people and you are still left with the majority unable to even cover the expense of the mandatory product purchases.
This is how pyramid schemes work. Compound this with a 80% drop out rate and almost everyone is left with an empty wallet.
Misleading yet again. I did not use retail profit in my calculation at all, yet it does exist...10% as added profit btw, I only calculated commission. You have no idea how retail works obviously. You have commission from preferred customers and retail markup+commission from others, which clearly you fail to understand. I did not talk about associates, I only talked about retail sales. You only brought this in your arguments as artifact to support your own opinion, and I re-state opinion, on the Usana business. This is not an associate business, and I know it hurts your beliefs. This is a product focused business, which all the positive feedback on product trials is proving again and yet again. You are using figures as 80% droput and 99% fail to make profit, yet your own table states otherwise. You are cumulating 20 years of associate roll out and you use this as an argument in your calculation. Do you even realize that if I cumulate the rollover from Pfizer in a 20 years period I would come up to most likely the same figures as you did. Your calculations are so flawed, it is unbearable for common sense, not that it is that common after all...and most likely they fool 99% of your blog readers. Yet again, enough said! Enjoy!
DeleteYou make it seem as if selling USANA product is as easy as selling candy to a child. It is not. The product is very expensive for something as basic as a vitamin supplement. These products are not intended to "diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease". Most people will not buy overpriced vitamins. The primary USANA customer are the sales reps themselves because reselling the product is rare.
Delete80% of new associates drop out within their first year. That is not make believe. If USANA products were as great as you claim they are, then the majority of people would not be dropping out like flies.
The USANA table (NOT MINE) lies and shows that about $260 to $300 million in commissions was paid out to the North American distributors (US, Mexico, Canada, and Europe) in 2011. However, the SEC filings show that $266 million was paid out in commissions World Wide. And again in the same table, USANA states that $616.72 was the average commission payout for the 135,590 North American Associates, which comes out to a total of only $83.6 million, NOT the $260-$300 million that the table shows. Why does USANA have to lie and overstate the table figures in that manner? Why do they lie and state that the Gold Directors and up make an average of $76,000 per year? These are flat out lies that USANA has made in a chart that serves no other purpose than to mislead new distributors into joining USANA.
Watchdog, I don't want to go in circle around the same type of argumentation that was posted again and again. I will just state two things:
Delete1. A yearly 80% drop out rate would create instability in share, volume and profit. Yet, the company is showing growth and a rising stock price. Whatever you are trying to achieve with your calculations is not reflected in any of the three measurements of a company success. You cannot have a drop out in volume of 80% and still maintain a balance of volume, profit and share. This isn't rocket science either and you shouldn't need a picture to get this simple fact.
2. You can buy retail vitamins as long as you see fit...however based on product trials, people are willing to invest in vitamins with which they had a positive experience. This isn't a claim of anything, it is a simple feedback received from product trials. You should try them too and decide if you like them or not and I assure you, you will not be brainwashed to join as an associate in either case, liking them or not. ;)
Misleading yet again,
ReplyDeleteThe employees at Pfizer were all made salaries and wages to work there. Therefore no Pfizer employee has EVER made a loss.
Even if the turnover was ridiculously high at Pfizer, everyone made a profit - their wages.
Uh, I think you are confusing 2 fundamental things: salary based employment and commission/profit based business. Go tell the same thing to your insurance broker, see what he thinks..he is most likely commission based. And please...don't confuse simplicity with plain incompetent argumentation.
DeleteUh,
ReplyDeleteWe're talking about income, whether it be commissioned based or fixed (wages and salaries).
- 99% of USANA distributors never make a profit.
- The pyramid scheme business model is NOT sustainable.
- Distributors numbers in the US and other established countries have peaked and will remain flat.
Get out of USANA now and stop taking EIGHT Essential supplement pills a day!! It's not good for you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2376893/Multivitamin-studies-supplements-harm-good.html
Income is also the social aid paid for unemployment.
DeleteThe rest of your affirmations are groundless. I won't repeat myself. See previous posts.
No comment on your last point, health benefits or health risks associated with vitamins use is a controversial subject where many studies were done with contradictory results. An example is vitamin d deficiency in northern countries or vitamin c deficiency in smokers.
As an added comment, you get what you pay for! Go retail, 6.99 is great value for money! ;)
The opposite would be go Usana! :)
Enjoy!
Go Usana! (Sounds like you were at their convention)
DeleteLet's see whether you "go Usana!" next year, or the year after that.
There are 1.5 million ex-associates, and currently only 60,000 preferred customers. They must have really enjoyed the health benefits of Usana's products to opt out and never return.
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ReplyDeleteI love it. You use the "F" word all over the place while defending USANA. Please develop some integrity and class before you continue. The previous posting was removed because I will not tolerate immature behavior from my readers.
DeleteI see you didn't approve my long message. Maybe because it had swearing in it. But I will put it here simply, USANA IS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME!!! THERE IS MOVEMENT OF PRODUCT!!! The end.
ReplyDeleteYou're a fool. Product based pyramid scheme. They exist. Usana is one of them.
DeleteUSANA is big on business building, to get their product marketed via word of mouth. If you don't put in an effort, don't expect a return. Most of the associates that do quit, are because they joined the business just to make money. There is more to this business, than just making money. In comparison to other network marketing companies, the products are inferior and the associates are out there promoting the products to be top notch. Firstly, each of the other network marketing companies were formed by businessman. Ours, a scientist with a vision. All I can do is laugh when I see this Watchdog, I have been in USANA for 5 months and will never quit. Have I made a return? No!! But that's cause I absolutely love the products, I take the nutritionals, I use the skin care, and I am also on the weight management products which are absolutely magnificent. The reasons why people don't make a return for ages is because they adore the products. If you want to start making a return, then you need to start selling the products off your Auto Order instead of taking them yourself, which in turn, defeats the purpose of doing the business because you SHOULD be taking the products if your going to be compassionate in promoting it. What I can say is, don't knock something til you try it. What's funny is, if Barack Obama takes USANA, do you think that USANA is going to get terminated? That would mean that your President does not have access to his favourite nutritionals if that were to occur. I will continue to have a laugh on this Watchdog, about how it aims to manipulate people into believing that a successfully legitimate billion dollar company called USANA, is preying on people for their money etc. If that were the case, explain the increasing amount of health testimonials that continue to occur when I am recommending these products to people?
ReplyDeleteMate did you graduate high school? Because your grammar is really poor... That's probably why you need a made up opportunity like Usana to get income...
DeleteYour going to get left behind, with the rest of the skeptical people, which you know, is completely fine by me, because when I am a 20-Star Diamond Director, I will be laughing on a boat on your crying river :P
ReplyDelete20-star diamond, i wonder how many you have recruited by then? good luck, i wish i could see on the stage also.....
DeleteGo start watching some product tests on Youtube.
ReplyDeleteMy favourite is our Proflavanol C-100 test, against other Grape Seed Extract companies in the market, that sell in retail channels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwTEavEmvvM - Remember, if your buying nutritionals from your local supermarket/pharmacy, do you know how much it would cost for them to Retail 'good nutritionals'? Remember, with Centrum, I should have caught on a long time ago but think about how much the bottle was manufactured for, and how much it costs in your retail channel. All of that marking up due to middle men, and having to cover for Advertising costs etc because they have paid some actor/athlete to promote their product. Think about it. Stop being skeptical. USANA is a business, if you don't want to build your business, well, just stay on the product. Noone said it was easy. This is network marketing. If you joined up as an associate thinking that money is just going to come to you, well your wrong.
So instead of using independently verified tests conducted by professionals in a controlled lab setting and published in independent scientific journals you're using YouTube videos?
DeleteWow, your video made it through the same rigorous screening process as David Icke's consipracy rants about the upcoming Lizard Apocalypse!
How do I sign up with your pyram-errr, I mean down-line?
Haha... Left behind like the other 1.5 million ex-USANA distributors.
ReplyDeleteThere can be so many Diamond Directors in the pyramid scheme. In order for you to be one, thousands will have to lose money.
And Andrew, do the math. Where do you live? How many distributors are there in your country? Associate numbers have peaked and are flat in established countries. How are you going to be a Diamond when there is already a Diamond in your upline and associate numbers aren't growing.
Hope you get your boat to float.
I live in Melbourne, Australia. I don't know how many distributors are in my country but my mentors are both 1 Star Diamond Directors. In Victoria Australia, we just had 3 new Diamond Directors I believe in the last few weeks. Associate numbers don't grow, unless we prospect :P Like I said, unless you are willing to work, you won't get anywhere :P
ReplyDeleteAndrew Sharp, when you prospect newbies do you target all the stupid 18-19 year olds that just got out of high school? I'm sure there's fun to be had convincing gullible kids to invest in a "business" that's not going anywhere.
DeleteI'm in Melboune too, feel free to brain-wash me with your high pressure sales tactics.
Who's up lining?
-Mousy
I am in Melbourne too. I have quite a few 'friends' who are USANA associates, They were very friendly to me while they were trying to get me in, But once they found out that I couldn't be brainwashed by their stupid tactics, they just stopped being nice. They post so much dream talking crap and so many cheap shots with expensive cars that I don't think neither one of those idiots owns one of those cars. All of you are scam and fake. Money is the only thing in your rotten minds, not even friends, family and ethics. Money made in that way is not something you should be proud of, you crappy people.
DeleteWhat are their names? Let's see if they're legit.
ReplyDeleteYes, Usana should disclose the number of active associates in each region but they don't.
Based on what Watchdog guesstimated before of roughly 12,000 distributors in Australia, there should not be more than 6 one-star diamonds in the whole of Australia.
That's right. You earn by prospecting, NOT by selling USANA product to customers. That is why USANA is a product-based pyramid scheme.
Correct logic would be "paid for prospecting" and since this is not the case, your argumentation is pointless and well, plainly boring. Watchdog has some weird calculations going on...sometimes is 1%, sometimes 3%, sometimes 13% and some other times 30%. You, as most of the other Usana bashing people in this blog, pick the numbers without having the slightest hint on which calculations they are based and what exactly they represent. 1% is actually the number of people that make a profit with multiple digits, tens to hundred of thousands. That 6 that you are talikng about is within that bracket. And according to watch dog, that's not 6 in 12000, it is more 120 in 12000. But hey, I probably lost you there. Afterall, I used 2 numbers + a calculation. Stick to text!
DeleteSorry, you get paid to recruit.
DeleteYou can prospect all you like, but unless the target signs up, do don't get anything.
Hi Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteProspecting involves both providing the opportunity to like-minded people, and approaching people for just the products. If some poor bugger really is not in a financial situation to join up, I don't coerce them into doing so. I set a follow up with them for a few months later when they may be in a better financial situation to discuss the business again with me. If they are interested in just the products, then I discuss only the products.
By the way, I got both my parents onto the HealthPak 4 months ago, and my parents both only have 1 HealthPak per day, instead of 2, because they like to share the box between them each month. Now, after 3 months, for some reason, my Dad's deep crevasses (scars) on his face have disappeared, and he is getting approached by people saying he looks much younger than previously. Now, what I do know is that my Dad has not changed or altered his eating patterns, or altered his lifestyle/exercise. What other conclusion am I left to come up with? Oh sorry, he takes Procosamine as well, but that's for joint pain, he no longer has bugged knees, and has alot of spring in his legs.
Due to my Dad's extreme positivity on the products, he joined the business and now works with me. He does this on the side, I do it full time. You accused USANA again of being a product-based pyramid scheme, so, are you saying that we are not happy to pay for our Auto-Order each month for our products that we are happy with? And if we want to start making money back on the side by promoting these products, then are you saying that there is something wrong with that?
All I know is the business system is sustainable, if your legitimate with the people that you are targetting, and not trying to force sign them up as associates when they are not in a position to. Fortunately, the business model that we work off, is so easy to make money off if you do put in a hard-earned effort, but, if your looking for that get rich scheme then your probably not going to administrate your team as confidently as you would like. You need to spend time working with your downline associates, 1-2 at a time developing them, rather than recruiting 20 brand new associates in one week then possibly 3/4's of them dropping out because they are not getting the support they need.
This is where you have to understand, USANA's business system is built this way, if I was a misleading, manipulating person then yes, it is so easy to manipulate this system if your good with your words. But coming back to things, it is my confidence in the product that ultimately lead me to join USANA, and also continue promoting it.
I'm glad the products are working for your father.
DeleteBut after 21 years and 1.5 millions ex-distributors, there are only 60,000 active preferred customers. Therefore more than 95% of these ex-associates don't think much about the products at all.
If the products were truly the best, don't you think USANA could make more money retailing it then through cultish MLMs?
Secondly, in a free market, if USANA's products were actually that great, they would easily be replicated by a competitor.
Please keep us update with your progress Andrew.
Sorry I am not sure if it's professional to post their names in here, so I won't. One of the 1 Star Diamond Directors is my age (24) and studied at Monash University here, studied Nutrition/Dietetics. His father is 50 years old, and his mother I am not sure how old, but all of them are 1 Star Diamond Directors. Chinese descent.
ReplyDeleteAndrew,
DeleteAsk the one that is 24 years of age how many associates he has in his downline. Ask him where most of them are from as well. Post the results here if you would. Thanks
Andrew, it is professional. These Diamonds are proud to be Diamonds and would put their names any where.
DeleteThey'll go on stage, go on YouTube, go on Facebook, they like the recognition and enjoy the warm adoration from their downlines.
Check whether these guys are in the "Millionaire Club" because 1 Star Diamonds will easily in that club after 3 years if it were true.
ex-silver director 2009
Deletehello Mark sharp. I was in usana for 3 years and every week we would recruit 1-2 people per week in our team. I was still broke. Do the Math and be honest with your progress. I still have family members doing the business so I wont name names on here. By the way you're describing these 1 star diamonds, it seems like these 3 people are in one shared Business account. No father and son mother would be all 1 star diamond and purchase 3 different pro packs with different business centers. So this counts as ONE diamond director account in Australia. I could even go into detail how they did it. As a silver director I was making more than most GOLD directors so by rank doesn't mean anything. For example there are people who are million dollar club members that are rubi and emerald and in 10 years became million dollar club members. As you can see Aaron dinh in Bay area took 11 years to become million dollar member (earning 1 million dollars total in commissions) and he is a 2 star diamond director. back in 2008 I was part of HOW he hit 2 star diamond. Most of the work was done through different gold RUNS in Aaron dinhs legs of BCs. if you do that math as a 2 star diamond Aaron dinh is as solid as a gold director. there was some achiever ranks that made more than me because its not all about ranks.
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DeleteThe 24 year old that Andrew is referring to is here. As for his downlines, you can figure that out for yourself.
I've got too many friends caught within this USANA to the extent that it's impossible for me to have a standard conversation with them without them spilling out some cult like rubbish.
I've never been apart of USANA, never will be.
I'm so sick of seeing morons like this guy spew a bunch of toxic rubbish about how they are trained by 'the great Dr Wentz' and how we are getting left behind and how he's gonna be laughing at us when he's diamond. We get it, you're in 5 months and still fresh in the dreaming phase. No successful MLM business builder I've ever known spends time in anti MLM forums taking shots at people who are critical. Grow up
ReplyDeleteI did read something though a few months ago, in terms of who is leading in nutritional science, I saw names like Douglas Laboratories, USANA and also a few others. I can't find this page anymore though :(
ReplyDeleteBecause my lawyer friend investigated USANA when I started he at least guided me in the right direction in terms of who to follow for nutritional products. MLM companies I know generally do not have the best quality products in the market, I know this because of friends that have worked for Amway and for Herbalife, some said the products were OK but the compensation plan is not as fair. They are also not weekly pay systems. I believe that in terms of all MLM companies that exist in this same channel, that the USANA products are of higher quality standard. I don't believe that USANA would go through all the hassle of going through an FDA-registered facility nowadays, if their product was to be inferior. I haven't taken products though from other "pharmaceutical-grade" company though for a period of time though to compare, but I am convinced that these products are extremely high quality. I have not felt like this before :)
Andrew, do you know the difference between fool's gold and real gold? Don't waste your precious time, money and energy. You are better off completing your studies or whatever you are currently doing. Young man, please revisit this site and tell us your Usana success story in 1 to 3 years time. Right now, you are in the honeymoon period in the business. Been there, done it before.
DeleteAndrew, you're likely talking about the Comparative Guide to Nutritional Supplements. A guide which has a very intimate relationship with USANA, a financial incentive to promote USANA, a complete lack of scientific testing, poorly accredited "experts" and no real scientific merit whatsoever.
DeletePlease try again.
ex-silver director 2009
Deletehey Andrew Sharp. You're looking for the Page where Gull laboratories was on top of nutritional along with usana? that page is on the Comparative guide in the back where it tells you the percentage. How can you not find that again? you must not have the book. I have 3 of them and I don't even want to sell it to get my money back because I am tired of the usana lies. Just like how you're lying here.
what is the lawyer friend of yours name? could we contact him and hear his opinion on usana? I too have talked to a lawyer about usana and guess what he said about it? mostly laughs when I tried to recruit him.
there are some good qualities with the products but I can tell you that some products out there work better than usana and some don't. usana is not the only vitamin company out there. most of the raw materials come from the same supplier.
on the comparative guide USANA of Canada ranks #4 under gull labrotaries. usana of Canada ranks lower because of one vitamin that is missing in the essentials.
So the ranking system is totally biased towards what Dr. Wentz thinks is the right ratios and balance or ingredients. In other words the ranking system is graded based On Dr. Wentz's OPINION on what is a good formula. Try it read it. I've read the comp guide 10 times in my usana career. Studied it. I made more $ than you. Why I quit is because I made so many people broke and eventually I got depressed lying to people and scamming my love ones and friends. if anyone wants to talk to me on the phone and give me your opinion on usana I can set you guys straight. I know this business more than any lawyer, doctor and my opinion is unbiased because I am not going to recruit you and I can care less if you keep doing the business.
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you saw the light ex-silver.
DeleteI couldn't lie to people to entice them into the scheme so I knocked back the business opportunity recently.
ex-silver director 2009
DeleteI'm glad you understand and you got out I was really deep into the business and so much corrupt and shady practices I have seen in my time with USANA. I wouldn't waste my time going online and talking about usana but for some reason the wrong doings of usana motivates me to say my opinion here and I really appreciate you understand. I hope anyone reading this site would wake up and see that this business is a SCAM.
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Deleteif only my friends could see what usana really is, like you, sooner, and i hope they don't stay in deeper, they've been doing it for almost a year and a half now, and still going..... from what i can see and what they tell me, they still have no profit from it.....and they were really active in the first 6months of it, doing the trainings and presenting to prospects.....
ive lent one of my good friends thats an associate heaps of money just so he could pay for his autoship and a little "pocket money"........i mean what else can i do, he still thinks usana is going to get him far.......
It's good that you're looking at the whole picture Andrew.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, with USANA, the distributors are the customers as there are very few preferred or retail customers.
You are required to spend 100 GSV every fortnight, or A$185 every 4 weeks. Do you really need to spend this much or nutritional supplements? Are all of USANA's products that great?
I mean the Essentials are only about 30 GSV points aren't they in Australia? That means you have to buy Nutrimeals, Rev drinks and the like to make the 100, or 200 if you have 3 business centres.
That is why USANA is product-based pyramid scheme. You are forced to buy a certain amount to possibly earn a commission.
And I know you have travel and other expenses to contend with in this business opportunity.
I do not get it... Only 1% earn the Money. A lot of People loosing Money bla bla bla. If you like to get to the top in anything you need to do the job. The point the watchdog is missing is that 90% of the People is not working. They use the Products or quit the business the same day they sign up as a distributor (or few weeks later) MLM is not a lottery, you dont get Rich because you sign up as a distributor. The point is: How many is working just as hard as they do on their normal job ? And do these People earn more than they do in their normal job... If they do, then it is no scam, but a good opportunity that can change Peoples life. For the record, Im from Sweden, USANA is not here, and I am not in any MLM. I just want to make the point that you are using the wrong number. DO THE JOB FIRST, THEN THE MONEY COME. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!
ReplyDeleteYou should really study the compensation plan before you make such comments.
DeleteUSANA has been around for over 21 years. If it was that easy you'll have more people in their "millionaire club".
A lot of people in this world work very, very hard (do the job first!) and yet they earn very little (then the money come???). Your logic is not quite right after all. However, compared to Usana and other MLM business, at least those who work hard in their normal jobs earn a monthly wage.
Deleteex-silver director 2009
Delete@anonymous dec 15
What I use to do is draw a big tree and leave each business center blank and I would visualize my tree growing with the names I plan to plug in those blank Business Centers. By that I can calculate how many points I would need to hit a certain position and balance out the legs to earn a commission. There isn't much to study. But for a new associate as yourself it is hard to see the negativity in the comp plan unless you calculate your points and the $ that need to be spent for your promotion. Lets say you want to hit Silver Director like me. Well do the math see what you have to sell. In one week you must sell atleast 10,000$ worth of products balanced in both legs to make a 1,000 commission (not including shipping prices and tax). the new associates will be in debt big and for them to get their money back they will need to sell 10x of what they collectively spent to get their $ back and that's not counting auto ship and that's only if the legs are balanced perfectly. You see, a million dollar club is hard to become and will takes years because atleast 10million dollars worth spending power of the people (down line) have been sold a dream or a product was sold. If you ever want to become a million dollar club on products sold correctly (meaning a supply and demand) you will never be a million dollar club.. That 10 million $ worth of propacks, business centers sold in products for ONE associate to have 1 million dollars which is probably broke anyways because they have to show off their lifestyle that they can't afford. In more detail: that 10 million$ collectively could of been used for the better good in the economy. So much gas, electricity, time, clothes, hotel $, food, etc along the way was spent by each associates. Not only that, time was wasted for one broke million dollar club member full of debt in credit cards, cars and rented lamborghinies, rented mansions just to show off and pretend to the downlines that he's massively retired and successful. If the associates quit there is no income. Even if the associates stay on autoship that isn't enough for the uplines to make it. in order to surive one has to be on an aggressive recruit strategy. One way to promote a ton of income is to brainwash a person so that he can recruit his CLOSE loving friends to buy into pro-packs. that is the fastest way to hit GOLD and show off your ranking to your downlines. All a mess up corrupt scam system.
Please contest my comment so I can add more details to what I missed...
Do Not Get It
ReplyDeleteYou made a great point!!! Part time people can not make money in Usana.
What are these people doing in Usana and how did they get there?
They were tricked into signing up. For 99% of the people it is a scam. It is not a business opportunity. It is a swindle. It is a real crime for % make money by lying to 99%.
In light of your observations, I would advise all the Usana associates who lost money lover the years to file suite against Usana to recover. They should ask for triple damages.because of the fraud and deceit involved in the registration process. If this became a class action lawsuit the the 1.5 to 2 million persons who lost money in Usana could recover. Usana should not make money by using deceptive sales tactics.
As for how did I get there, I wanted to improve my health. Have you ever thought that many people just stay active as an associate for the products. And before you ask why they're not just a customer. That's simple, the starterpack of products is a discount. To be honest with you yes, I have not made much money in the first year (also because I didn't really do anything with it as I was in my final year of study). However, I cannot complain. Number one is because my health is much improved (and I mean a lot) and two is since I easily want to buy for 100 points in products every month and yes other products than the essentials are also good. And still without doing much I certainly earn more than thee $52 mentioned every year, in fact more than that every month. Yes it might not be a lot but I haven't done a lot either. And as everyone should realize it does take a lot of work. But the products are totally worth it to me. Also I have seen from experience that you can become successful part-time as well.
ReplyDeleteyour opinion about the product is good and I believe you. a lot of people are feeling better but there are no real scientific study to why they feel better. you can sleep 10 hours straight and feel better or exercise 30 mins a day and feel better. there are a lot of people working usana 24/7 and not making much. they are out there doing embarrassing things with lies and deceit. if you work harder to earn more so many people will lose 10x more. this blog is about how the lies and how the comp plan is hopeless. Products are good but then again some products out there are good also. it just depends on your preference. people in usana always defend usana because there is a product. guess what drug dealers in the street have a product too. we are talking about how bad the comp plan is and how this company is making people broke and unhappy. only a few are happy but their conscience doesn't even know the difference between truth and lies. they are such a good liar that they believe their own lies.
Deletethe products are good but associates make it seem like its a miracle vitamin that it cured this and it cured that.... they are liars...
Products Are Good
ReplyDeleteYour opinion, "the products are good" is not valid. Mega doses of vitamins are overkill and a waste of money. In addition the products are overpriced when compared to other vitamins.
Usana uses the excess price of the products to fund their pyramid scheme. You do not have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. The effect you seem to be raving about is called the placebo effect. Usana is using self proclaimed experts to make unsupported claims about their products. They cannot point to one scientific study that Usana vitamins are curing anything. The associates are told claim that Usana products cure this and that. If there was any proof, it would be in the headlinea of every news paper on earth.
Usana is a sham and the products are not good.
Do you know who was put in your up-line today.?
For those of you who are curious how Aaron Dinh closes his prospects you can join his webinar.
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a long long time ago there were people critisize the company.....and now they still do that... and the company goes up and earn million of dollars..and the people loves to critisize the company earn 0 dollar...how sad mr usana watchdog .. isnt?
ReplyDeleteUSANA's earnings go up off the backs of the 99% of distributors who are losing money. That's what I think is sad.
DeleteHi. New associate here and im getting really skeptical (hopes still high but wallet almost broke). I read through every comments and there wasnt update since 2014. Reciving this
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