If a USANA distributor asks you to join their Multi-Level Marketing business opportunity, simply ask them the following question.
How much commission do you make each month on average from (1) Downline Distributor's purchases and (2) Preferred Customer's purchases?
If the promoting distributor has actually made anything (66% of them haven't made a penny), then the answer you get will likely break down as the following: 90% of their commission came from Downline Distributors and 10% came from Preferred Customers. What does this mean? It means the distributor's primary job is to sell the business opportunity and recruit more distributors. Only 10% of the business opportunity is committed toward selling the product and signing up preferred customers.
How do I know this? Because 90% of USANA's products are purchased by USANA distributors according to their latest SEC filings. Does this mean distributors want the product because they use it or because they have a customer to resell it to? Absolutely not. In fact, USANA distributors are forced to purchase over $100 worth of product every 28 days in order to participate in the business venture. It is a business obligation. If the distributor fails to make this required purchase, then that distributor loses all volume points accumulated, is not eligible to collect commission and is no longer considered as “Active”.
So in order to be successful in USANA, distributors must recruit enormous downlines. Not only that, but these distributors must pressure downline members to also recruit more distributors. This is an endless chain of recruiting. More than half of new distributors stop participating within the first year. So in order for MLMs to survive, distributors must recruit new distributors at a higher rate than those who are dropping out. This is a pyramid scheme. If the recruitment of new distributors were to stop, then the MLM company like USANA would go out of business in just a couple months. The product itself cannot retain enough customers. Only the dream of becoming rich in their deceptive business opportunity keeps the company alive. Only 1% of those who join make a profit.
Now if that USANA promoter answers your question by telling you they make most of their commission from preferred customers, then ask them what the dollar amount is per month. If it is not more than $100, then they are not even recovering the expense of their $100 required product purchase, not to mention all the other expenses incurred.
Another answer you may hear is that they immediately received a $100 commission check their first week. This is a very deceptive answer because of the following. If you joined USANA and signed up purchasing their $1250 "Professional Pack" starter package, you will automatically receive a $100 commission check without having to sell anything! Now ask yourself, if you purchase something for $1250 and receive $100 back, would you seriously consider that an earning let alone a commission? This is one of USANA's dirty little secrets ad violates even their own policies and procedures by paying a commission to someone without any selling whatsoever. It's also used to manipulate their numbers.
If you are asked to join, consult with your accountant regarding the business opportunity. Take them the compensation plan and ask them to evaluate it.
As a Gold Director I average about $36000 annually and have about 20 customers.
ReplyDeleteAS A quadruple Californium Director's Director, I earn eleventeen million dollars per month
DeleteLOL WT F is a quadruple calfornium director's director.
DeleteAnd W t F IS eleventeen million!! ? You must be on drugs after eating those usana crap. LOL
eleventeen million == 0.
Excellent post. Someone just called us about this product. Google, trying to anticipate your objective, pops us "usana scam" when you finish typing "usana".
ReplyDeleteHere are a few links to the SEC reports recommended in the above post:
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110314/usna10-k.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110810/usna10-q.html
To the anonymous person who makes $36k with 20 customers, thanks for proving that to make a decent income with Usana, it's all about recruiting and about getting real customers.
ReplyDeleteExactly! That is what MLM is all about! Network Marketing is just that - NETWORKING.
DeleteIf you want to just sell stuff, open a store! If you want to build a network of people with vision and ambition - join a good MLM company with products which WORK. USANA products saved my life so I am committed to using them as I wish to remain healthy. Are they expensive? Compared to what? - the crap in the supermarkets? I gladly pay for my regular monthly purchases because I can guarantee that they do the job. Why do people buy Caddys and Mercs instead of Tatras and Ladas? Because they know which product is the best and can guarantee quality. Duh!
You clearly have no idea how the human body works. Just keep spending your money on placebos. I hope you never discover the real way to get a strong healthy body, you do not deserve one.
Deleteyou can call it placebo or whatever, it's not like you've studied it for 22 years and i'm sure you're not an expert in cellular nutrition. I still hope you get to live a long and healthy life.
DeleteToo bad the anonymous poster who claims to be a Gold Director making $36,000 annually with about 20 customers is not telling the truth.
ReplyDelete(1) Can't be from commissions. For that distributor to make $36,000 commission from 20 customers, each customer would have to buy $18,000 worth of USANA product each year. NOT happening.
(2) Can't be from reselling for a profit margin either. 20 customers would have to buy $5142 worth of USANA product at the retail price. NOT happening.
(3) To be Gold Director, the distributor must max out 1 business center for 4 consecutive weeks. For this to happen from 20 customers, 10 would be on the left leg and 10 on the right leg. Each customer would have to have purchased about $1200 worth of product each week for 4 weeks in order for this distributor to achieve Gold Director status. NOT happening.
This anonymous poster either made up the numbers out of thin air, or they are leaving out the several hundred downline distributors that are responsible for the claimed $36,000 figure. Either way, there is certainly a lack of honesty with this poster.
That is strange! Where do you get your "facts" from? When I became a Gold Director I earned in excess of $200 000 in my first 2 years! Obviously you have not a clue about ho USANA's Compensation Plan actually works.
DeleteDo some proper homework before posting your libelous nonsense.
The poster claimed he earned $36,000 from 20 customers. How do you suppose this can be true when each customer on average would then have to buy $18,000 worth of USANA product? He claimed 20 customers. Let me ask you, when you earned over $200,000 as a Gold Director, how many distributors were in your Downline? I understand if you do not answer this question because no distributor has ever answered this question. Would you like to be the first?
Deletethere are 2 type of customers, first type is customer as indivisual which i dont believe will purchase $18000 worth of USANA product. Second type is customer as business owner, a spa owner who purchase USANA products for their customers to comsume product after the spa treatment and/or resell to their customers, in this case, it is more than possible to sell $18000 to a customer, i know that because i have customers like that, 9 customers who purchase over $100k a year for last 3 years.
Delete36,000/2 is NOT = 18,000 -.-. Sorry LOL
DeleteIn reply to "36,000/2 is NOT = 18,000 -.-. Sorry LOL"
Delete20 customers would need to purchase about $360,000 for the distributor to make about $36,000. Therefore, each customer would need to buy $18,000 worth of product. Do you understand this?
why the hate?
ReplyDeletei dont think you know as much as you think you know about MLM businesses.
and the anonymous gold director obviously left out a huge chunk of information, no one has time to list all their associates let alone have a debate with this "usana watch dog"
i just wish you good luck on the rest of your life, you seem to be quite negative when dedicating significant portions of your life to ariix and usana to spread some hate. i really wish that you'd try the business and actually give it 100% before hating so hard, give it 1-2 years who knows, better than wasting your life on this.
good luck!
Many people get a big kick out of slandering successful people and companies. They use half-truths to justify their 'facts' - most of which are complete nonsense. They make good journalists for Fox News!
DeleteThat's what it's all about, trying to keep people and freedom down, by slandering. Yet those who post such 'hate' never presents the fact that this is what I did and tried the product and the business. Always rhetoric. Do it and experience it before you decide to slander it. Or this posting all be fraud AGAIN, that the author may have secretly purchased stock in the company and wants to short it for his profit? All a possibility because this post is crap, you can't back it from your own personal experience.
DeleteWWIII, Ebola, yup we humanity have earned what is coming to us in this world of deception, lies and corruption. People the game it up!
I wouldn't believe that if you USANA people really succeed by doing this business, you wouldn't be so desperate to recruit people to succeed the same way..unless there's 'something else' that you want from them by recruiting them. And honestly I don't think getting rich is as certain and easy as you guys claim. The things that you say when persuading people to join are just too good to be true, crap actually...you are not professional at all even if you dress like you are. Only innocent or stupid people would believe you. I wish you will all fail one day and find that you are too late to regret it. I cannot be polite when I am talking to you sinister people.
DeleteMLM is all about sharing the opportunity of a lifetime. Yes you do have to recruit and have to get customers but thats what comes with the job! Does not make it a scam. If you don't like to recruit or get customers than DON'T DO MLM. It's pretty plain and simple. So since you are so smart about MLM. Robert Kiyosaki said that "Network marketing is the perfect business", is this multi-millionaire stupid? What have you done to give MLM a bad name beside googling "USANA SUCKS". If you can work an extra 10 hours a week to earn potentially an extra 56k a year. It is well worth it. People work 10 years to get a pay raise of 5k a year. Please, do your research before you hate on an amazing company!
ReplyDeleteDear born yester ,,,ah Tony
ReplyDeleteThe pyramid scheme works best when you leave before the police get there. The person at the top of the mlm/pyramid scheme makes money by cheating the downline. The products are over-priced and are difficult to sell. The downline are are the customers who are forced purchase the product that they can not sell. This is called inventory loading.
Dear Bast*rd. The compensation plan of USANA does not work that way. The USANA offers your compensation based on the number of points you accumulate, not on the number of people recruited. I can't help but worry about people like you who barks so much but still works like sh*t. Goodluck with your stone age ideas and "prosper".
DeleteTo the Anonymous poster that replied with "dont think you know as much as you think you know about MLM businesses.
ReplyDeleteand the anonymous gold director obviously left out a huge chunk of information, no one has time to list all their associates let alone have a debate with this "usana watch dog""
All USANA distributors know exactly how many downline distributors they have at any given time because their Downline Management program tells them. Yeah, OBVIOUSLY the gold director left out a huge chunk of information - THE TRUTH! I've not come across a USANA distributor Gold Director and up that actually admits to the number of distributors they have in their downline. They won't disclose this information because it shows that the ONLY way to make a profit in USANA is to sign up more distributors instead of retailing product. They don't want you to know they are making $100,000 off the 10,000+ distributors in their downlines who purchase USANA product in order to participate in the scam.
Not to mention that their tactics for selling supplements based off "science" is completely absurd. Any medical student, pharmacy student, PHD can see through their charades. Only the naive young CEO fresh out of highschool aka "directors" are childish enough to believe in this companies products. The scary part is they are out there promoting products they can not fully comprehend. Keep it up watch dog!
ReplyDeleteI agree. Their clinical trials are all "in house", and if you look at the structure of "their" clinical papers it is very limited. It draws no comparisons between other previous studies, uses a very small sample size, and does not admit to any limitations within the study (which is a standard thing to do).
DeleteI wonder how much a full-time Usana hater earns.
ReplyDeleteThey earn more than than 99% of Usana associates.
Delete99% of Usana associates do not make a profit.
hahahahahahahahaha perfect response.
Deletelol. that comment is gold.
DeleteYou've been hating Usana for 5 yrs already and still counting. If you joined Usana 5 yrs ago instead, you could have helped thousands and earned millions already, much better than producing an army of Usana haters. Don't hate too much, for it might be a cause of high blood pressure! :)
ReplyDeleteSo you mean by 'helping' thousands is to get them to spend hard earned money on unnecessary pills and potions. Wow, with that logic you will fit right into the church of Scientology....
DeleteExactly!
DeleteIf a person eats the correct amount of whole foods (non processed) and keeps hydrated and active, there is no need for so many supplements.
Also, I saw a post from a healthy 84 year old women that hasn't been sick in years... Maybe she should disclose the fact that she has limited access to germs... not spending a lot of time around numerous people, and the fact that her biggest stressors are whether the home is serving her favorite casserole this week?
you could have helped thousands and earned millions already, much better than producing an army of Usana hate
DeleteOr you could've help thousands to lose money and then also end up being lonely because you have no friends.. except for your usana friends.
A full time USANA hater earns roughly 157,000 plus bonuses. I have had a friend in USANA for 10 years, still not even Silver.
ReplyDeleteWhat we do is what makes us who we are. :)
ReplyDeletei agree with u Watch Dog! Almost all of my friends were already been manipulated and hypnotized by this kind of opportunity, and now they always see me as a downline-to-be, but they never succeed. Thanks for this blog, I am more encouraged with keeping my word, never to join that any MLM. I think it is just a waste of hard earned money.
ReplyDeleteYou're right jina. Never join MLM. Let's just work until we die. Let our work consume whatever we have - quality time with loved ones, financial freedom.. Let us not stray too far from our safe zone. Let's not venture into something challenging. Let's just accept that this will be our life forever. Work work work. Perfect!
ReplyDeleteBTW... I laughed at the word "hypnotized". The associate who offered you the opportunity, did he sway a magic pendant in front of you or something?
I would rather work and make an honest income, than lie and deceive in order to get rich.
DeleteThere are many ways to make money or start a business without resorting to pyramid schemes.
Not all MLM's are pyramid schemes, honey. I suggest that you look into your job, which gives you your sense of security. I cant blame you people. It was ingrained in you that the only way to make an "honest" living is to find a "stable" job. Well, tell that to the top richest people of the world. If there is anything common among them, it is that they refuse to fit in the mold this society has given. Think about it. Your "honest" living can only help you and your family survive. Networkers however, not only achieve their dreams, but also others reach theirs. What have you done with your life?
DeleteYou are working too in USANA. IN fact, you have to work work work to keep your downlines busy, hypocrit.
DeleteUsana lovers are brainwashed. You can't argue with them. It's like trying to convince someone to change religions. They think that without MLM, they'll have to work for the rest of their lives. They buy the illusion that MLM is the one and only path to financial freedom. They honestly believe they are "helping" people become "free" when the numbers say most people fail, but before they fail, they help finance the fancy car for some high ranking person so it can be used to draw more unsuspecting college students into the system.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing they blindly believe is that all MLM haters are broke and have a dead end job. They can't fathom the possibility that there are MLM haters out there who actually make plenty of passive income without having to join a brainwashing cult who's purpose is to recruit more people into their "family" for financial gain.
They've been lied to and told over and over again that MLM is the only true way to financial freedom and without MLM, they can never be free and will have to work for the rest of their lives.
When you're told something enough times, surrounded by people who believe and therefore reinforce the same facts, it'll eventually become undeniably true in your mind. Over time, your thoughts will no longer be your own. You start talking like your leaders. You shun anyone who talks badly about your group. The people you hang out now are almost all part of the group. You've been slowly taught to stay away from people who don't share the same beliefs. People you once called friends are now referred to as the "negative people" who don't know any better and will regret not joining 5 years from now when you're rich and retired.
This is a cult but just like any cult, their members can't see that it's a cult. You can only see the truth once you've stepped out of the circle and stop drinking the Kool-Aid (endless brainwashing sessions, I mean trainings).
Why do cult members worship their leader? Because they see them as higher than they are. Do you really believe someone is higher than you just because they make more money? That's just sad.
There's only two reasons why you MLM folks defend your company: Love and Money.
You're like a teenager that joins a gang just for the sense of belonging and acceptance. Your self esteem is so low that you'll completely change who you are just to please your higher ups.
As for money, it's everything to you. You can lie to yourself and say you're in it to help people improve their health but take the money part out and you'll be a lot less enthusiastic about the products. You'll ditch your old friends, change into someone else, believing that if you make more money, it'll be all worth it. You drool at the sight of your leaders driving up in nice cars. You'll treat them like a celebrity even though you know deep down they favor those who make them more money. You'll treat them better than you'll treat friends who were there for you all those years all in the sake of money.
You feel good when a downline of your thanks you for showing them the opportunity. You believe that you're helping people be financially free and that may be true for a few people but you totally forget about all of the folks who failed under you. If you're going to take credit for the few successful ones, you're going to also have to take credit for the tons of failures as well.
I've read too many stories of people having their lives negatively affected by MLM one way or another. The handful of success stories get magnified while the thousands of failure stories get disregarded and written off as failure due to laziness or lack of determination. Having to constantly defend what you do for a living must be fun, buy hey, as long as you're rich in 5 years, that's all that matters right?
Profound... Amen brother/sister :)
DeleteThe MLM business is not for everyone. We should understand that. Some people really just have dreams and are brave enough to get out of their comfort zones. Come on people! Where is the humanity? These are people who are trying to make a living. Will a professional mock a janitor for his job if he is only trying to provide for his family? If a janitor deems his job is fit to provide for his family, then networkers have the right to choose too. Think about that!
DeleteUsana is just one of my income streams and I could say it's a pretty good investment. The business is timely because more and more people are getting in to the wellness industry who are in search for the best health products.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe that MLM is the only way to financial freedom. MLM is a great way to have flowing income if you really work it out. But there are lots of other businesses or assets to invest to, like stocks, mutual funds, etc. I think it's better if you use your MLM earnings to acquire such assets.
I still work full-time though I really can't see myself getting rich someday by working alone. But I'm not saying that MLM is the only way. MLM income becomes passive only after you have put so much effort and dedication to it.
So before joining any MLM, be sure if you can commit to it. You also improve the statistics of MLM people who failed by simply not adding to the number =)
Friend, it’s always commitment that will make you succeed.
I like your honesty, but do you really want to join a pyramid scheme in the first place?
DeleteIt's not an ethical way to earn an income.
I agree, I would love to see an answer to this question. How does it feel knowing that 91% of your 'passive income' is coming people in your downline whose "business" fails?
DeleteBegan USANA in January 2011. Already a silver director with steady income..yes we have associates but we by far have more customers who create stability. It's all in the training and time you take to listen to others and what their needs are. No rocket science - and there is no need to degrade people. If you tried an MLM and it didn't work out, I am sorry but a lot of it is the individual, and probably it is better to stay at your 9 to 5. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteIf by "we" you mean Usana, you are wrong. There are almost 4 usana associates for every 1 preferred customer. You would be an incredible anomaly if you actually had more customers than associates and you made decent money.
DeleteSo you're saying you have way more customers who aren't part of the business than recruits? That's awesome. Good job. You're a true salesperson. By the way, it's October so saying you already hit Silver isn't that amazing. Some do it in less than a month.
ReplyDeleteAlso, no matter how well you do, no matter how ethically you do it, because you are part of an industry that produces false hopes and countless failures, you'll always be viewed as a money hungry cult member by many people. Just learn to live with it. The best way to have the naysayers shut up is to just not join the conversation. You can say whatever you want, it'll only make these folks fight you even more. If you believe in what you do, that's all that matters. No point in trying to convince people who you can't convince think differently.
USANA does not have more customers than cult like "entrepreneurs". They will be around for years to come, but how many more people can you manipulate? They tell you its an endless marketplace of people, but markets are finite. Just look at the numbers. If you REALLY cared about people and their well being you would tell them to exercise and eat healthy. Supplements are not needed, for the most part, if an individual can show discipline.
ReplyDeleteJust the fact that *everyone* can join and there are no requirements should make you think about what you are joining. You know that old saying "If its too good to be true...".
Logic said "They think that without MLM, they'll have to work for the rest of their lives."
ReplyDeleteWell, this is true. Without MLM or rental income passive income, YOU still have to work for the rest of your life. You have a job. So you have to work for the rest of your life.
Even if you have rental income, you have to work for your rest of your life by doing the rental and toilet uncloggin and everything else. So unless you win the lottery and put it in the bank with interest, you have to work no matter what.
The question is what is it that you are working so hard for? With a job, you are working for a boss and if you stop, you don't get paid!
With a rental income, you are uncloggin toilet and doing landlord stuff.. but you are working toward capital appreciation and passive income so that if you don't work you still have rental income. (uncloggin toilets and stuff are trivial compare to 9 to 5 jobs)
With MLM, you are basically working toward passive income. This is the same with all real estate brokers and life insurance brokers.
Don't tell me you don't see this point.
Logic say: "Also, no matter how well you do, no matter how ethically you do it, because you are part of an industry that produces false hopes and countless failures, you'll always be viewed as a money hungry cult member by many people. Just learn to live with it. The best way to have the naysayers shut up is to just not join the conversation. You can say whatever you want, it'll only make these folks fight you even more. If you believe in what you do, that's all that matters. No point in trying to convince people who you can't convince think differently. "
ReplyDeleteI'm the same poster as the with the last statement "Do tell me you don't know this?" This paragraph by logic is very true and I give 2 thumbs up to this. People in mlm, no matter how truthful and nice, is marked as manipulative. I even marked them as that until I really know them as a person. So if you are still able to achieve silver, you have a chance to really do what you like to and just getting customers is really a truth salesmanship and if all MLM associate just focus on that.. the MLM industry might not have marked as manipulative and evil. But people abuse that distributor thing.
Heck I didn't even know avon was mlm, but my mom was using their products. Since she is just a customer and had no one to FORCE her to be a distributor, she buys the products and likes it... but if someone FORCED her to be a distritbutor, she might just cancel it. SEE THE DIFFERENCE!
"As a Gold Director I average about $36000 annually and have about 20 customers."
ReplyDeleteHow is this possible? By math it doesn't make sense..
Since I joined late last year, I have 45 to 50 active distributor(some of which are just customers) and 6 preferred customers AND I'm still a Builder..(flirting with achiever a few times though).
But I'm making an average of $500 per month..so that's all it matters and 3 month of which I really did nothing but still have that much coming in.
To the Anonymous who wrote:
ReplyDelete"Without MLM or rental income passive income, YOU still have to work for the rest of your life. You have a job. So you have to work for the rest of your life."
That just proves my point that MLMers are brainwashed. You're basically saying that there are only 2 possible ways to make passive income, actually 1 since you claim all people who have rental properties personally unclog toilets. Ever heard of property management companies?
Ever heard of royalties from intellectual properties? How about stock dividends? How about really simple semi-passive businesses like vending machines? Ever heard of affiliate marketing? You must've at least heard of the Youtube partnership program right? How about people who sell insurance? Photographers can make passive income as well but you didn't know that did you?
Learn to think outside of what your uplines preach to you. They tell you without MLM you'll have to work for the rest of your life to scare you into continuing to recruit and buy products each month so they can retain their own passive income.
FREE YOUR MIND NEO!
"Since I joined late last year, I have 45 to 50 active distributor(some of which are just customers) and 6 preferred customers AND I'm still a Builder..(flirting with achiever a few times though)."
ReplyDeleteHow are the people under you doing? Are they making any money? That is a lot of people to recruit to just make 500 per month. It is not enough money to quit your day job. It is based volume points so your distributors have to come in with the professional pack for $1000 so you can get more points. If you sign someone up for a smaller pack then the points are lower. Subsequently, you would have to recruit more people.
I started taking USANA supplements approx.
ReplyDelete2 1/2 weeks ago, I don't sell, I purchase because of the quality of the supplements. The price point is very reasonable and it's my health, I can't put a price on that. I'd been looking for quality products and came across USANA and I approached the rep. Will I suggest USANA to friends and family, absolutely!! I guess that would make me a preferred customer?? We need to be proactive with our health, don't wait until illness comes knocking to educate yourself.
How can you argue the quality of this product or have you been too busy bashing to even look at the products themselves?
We do need to supplement our diets. The quality of the fruits, veg., meat and fish we eat is not there today. We have more people impacted by degenerative diseases then ever before and look at the cancer rates!! If our bodies were getting what they needed from food alone we wouldn't be where we are today with all these illnesses. We need quality supplements(to complement a healthy diet and exercise) our bodies/immune system need help in todays world. I think USANA has gone above and beyond most companies out there and I will continue to purchase their products for my family.
Kelley
You must have had a really unhealthy life style to take vitamins for under 3 weeks and notice a huge difference. Well, good for you. Taking vitamins is probably better than not taking vitamins. I'm not convinced that Usana vitamins are 10 times more effective than one that cost 10 times less.
ReplyDeleteTo be truthful, if I were to sell expensive vitamins, I would tell people they're likely to die of cancer if they don't buy my vitamins too.
"You must have had a really unhealthy life style to take vitamins for under 3 weeks and notice a huge difference" I've not made the claim of noticing a "huge difference" you're putting that out there. I do actually live a healthy lifestyle, (just got back from a 5k run with some girlfriends after working a 12 hr night shift, how's your morning shaping up?)I also play soccer and floor hockey and I'll be hitting the big 44 this year!! I'm no fast food junkie but I do enjoy it every now and then :)
ReplyDeleteI think you'd benefit from reading some medical journals when it comes to vitamin supplements so you can educate yourself on the beneficial effects. Cancer rates, as well as heart disease, fibromyalgia, MS,(to name a few), would go down if we had proper nutrition with quality supplements. We need supplements for optimal health! So if you're going to get on your soap box do something worthwhile!! You may not like Usana's business model but they need to be commended on the quality and price point of their product.
Our food barely meets the RNI (Canada) RDA's (US)and these standards are now increasing based on research!! The original RDA's go back to WWII at a time when food was rationed and they needed a baseline in order to avoid common nutritional deficiencies(scurvy, rickets,beriberi)So they are now changing to reflect what we need for optimal health not minimal.
Purity, potency, and safety are foremost in any nutritional supplement, especially if you are taking it on a daily basis. My preference is quality manufacturing through compliance with GMP standards. When these standards are not met,(your "10 times cheaper version"), the product may contain more or less of what is on the label along with other things like pesticides, herbicides or animal residues, molds and insect parts from inappropriate harvesting and storage. Yummy! I'll stick to being a USANA customer any day, at least I know what I'm putting into my body. Another great product is Vega by Brendan Brazier.
Oh and just an FYI I'll be celebrating my 5th year as a cervical cancer survivor in May. Don't wait for illness to come knocking to educate yourself. It's much easier to maintain and optimize your health then claw your way back. My mission is to heal from the inside out and educate as many people as I can along the way.
Kelley
USANA customer
Are you insane?! These are just vitamins??... What has this world come to?!
DeleteStop popping the pills!...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2376893/Multivitamin-studies-supplements-harm-good.html
What was the point in stating that you are a cancer survivor? I know you said you're just a customer but do realize that there are reps out there who will indirectly make claims. A comment talking about vitamins, then saying you beat cancer. Sure, you didn't say vitamins cure cancer but putting both things into the same paragraph, sneaky.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not vitamins really are that beneficial is still up for debate. I've read arguments for both sides from researchers.
If USANA really is all about making the world a healthier place, they should cut the crap about choosing the MLM model to "reduce" cost to the consumer. The MLM model is used solely to make sure products are sold. More profitable.
By the way, I have a friend who listens to heavy metal music. He's cancer free. These statements are not related.
USANA is NOT scam. It's a legitimate business.
ReplyDeleteUSANA (and other MLM-type of business ventures) are only tainted by greedy uplines who hypnotize their downlines that they can earn easy money for just a short time. Most downlines don't know that they will have to dedicate a lot of their time and they will have to become a good salesperson with good PR skills to be able to profit from this kind of business.
If the products are not worth the price, then the business will fail because people will not buy them -- this is what happens if you use the traditional business model to sell these products. So the company using this business model will either improve their products, sell their products at a cheaper price or ditch their products and make another one.
However, if the USANA (or whatever MLM business there is) products are just that bad and the business still runs up to now, THAT MEANS THAT THE COMPANY IS FILLED WITH GREEDY DISTRIBUTORS/ASSOCIATES/DIRECTORS/RESELLERS/WHATEVER. (Capitals used for emphasis.)
If a certain product is really bad, an honest MLM distributor will simply report the product or stop distributing them, not using their downlines to sell the product -- but this isn't really the case in most distributors. Sigh.
If the product is good, then I don't think there's anything wrong with distributing it thru MLM. It's just making the product easily available through other people. But like what I've said, it's badly tainted by greedy people.
I don't believe in the "middle men makes distributing the product more expensive" though. What do you call the distributors then? Aren't they middle men too?
WOW do you like to take things out of context. I stated I had been taking the supplements for a short time, not once did I elude to the fact that this is why I'm cancer free. My reason for looking at supplements and healing from the inside out, to continue healing at an optimum level, was due to having had cancer. I had conventional treatment, radiation and chemo(both cancer causing as well as treating) I've beat cancer because I continue to be cancer free because of the treatments I had and the fact that I do what I can to stay healthy and now I've added to that regime with USANA!!! At the 5 year mark they consider you cured but I'm sure you already know all that.
ReplyDeleteMy wife was talked into Usana by her friends last march. Since then she dedicates Thursdays as her "business days" at the Jims Eatery down the street. I figured out that she has almost broke even. Ive tried to tell her that her off time is better spent somewhere else. Just what Logic said about the 5 years being rich and how non believers are "negatives" thats so efin true. Actualy it reminds me of girls playing tea party with imaginary friends when her and her girlfriends get around eachother. Its so obvious how Usana is such a big company and grew so fast.... Dumb people from Utah. They believe in anything.
ReplyDeleteDid you not read what I wrote carefully? This article is about Usana, yet you brought up that you're cancer free after saying all of these good things about Usana. Why? What's the point in stating that? Simple, because you want to indirectly relate Usana vitamins with curing cancer. And you claim to not elude to why you're cancer free. What a joke.
ReplyDeleteQuit with your misdirected nonsense.
We do not care if the product is good or bad.
ReplyDeleteWe do not care how the product can benefit anyone.
We do not care if you are gaining a lot from this kind of business.
What we mind is:
1. HOW THE ASSOCIATES/DIRECTORS "ENCOURAGE" THEIR DOWNLINES TO RECRUIT MORE
2. THAT MAJORITY OF ITS SALES DON'T COME FROM THE CUSTOMERS BUT THE AUTOSHIPPED PRODUCTS TO THE ASSOCIATES
3. AND MOST OF THE ASSOCIATES' EMPHASIS ON RECRUITING THAN ON SELLING.
My emphasis on the capitals. Please, do yourselves a favor and don't look stupid by giving us a monotonous tone on how you got rich, or how the supplements made you healthy, or how "negative we are blah blah we're not trying blah blah we are failures and we fail financially because we did not join blah blah".
If you succeeded mainly because of your sales and if your few downlines did not earn by recruiting enormous downlines but by selling as well, then you deserve to have everyone's respect here.
I just hope those greedy associates would have their guilt penetrate their impenetrable thick skin. Sigh.
Dear Sigh, EVERY person who joins your MLM business is a CUSTOMER - and more, just as if they came to your store to buy something. HOWEVER, a store costs a great deal of money just to open the doors every day - and many, many long hours of work every day after the doors close ... ask any store owner! Your aim as a store owner is to build your business large enough to create another branch from which you will receive a 'royalty' (you have to employ a manager for each branch, so you cannot earn as much as if you did all the work yourself).The goal is to open many branches in different towns, or even countries.
DeleteIn an MLM business, you have a very modest initial investment, often a 1000th of what you would pay for an average business, and the downline people who join you are like new branches of your business. You make a little income from your direct sales to clients(Preferred Customers in USANA) and a little from each 'branch' of your store.
Now, just as in the 'real' world, if you do NOT look after your 'stores'(your Downline people)some of them will imitate your example and start to become less efficient, lazy, etc, and as a result your 'royalty' income will start to drop.
You now have a choice: to give up your business and blame the company, the industry, the products, etc, etc, OR, to get off your butt and start working with the leaders and also recruit more of the same. Remember, the more branches, the stronger and more solid the tree.
A successful MLM business is a learning curve. ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO LEARN NEW SKILLS - THAT IS THE MARK OF A LEADER.
By the way, if you knew anything about USANA you would know that all Associates are required to show regular sales receipts WHENEVER asked to do so. Looks like you are one of the losers who joined thinking it would be an easy ride on the backs of others. The Business Plan is designed to STOP lazy people like you giving the Company a bad name - as you have manifested by your silly posting.
You don't learn new skills on MLM only. You learn it anywhere and everywhere. It is up to you if you want to learn those new things or not.
DeleteYou didn't give a good rebuttal over my post. It's not on how it will benefit whoever will join, but on stepping on the one you recruit by forcing him to spend a hundred dollars a month and by forcing him to recruit more.
Why? Can't you earn by just selling these supplements and skin care products?
By the way, I asked someone I know to show her sales receipts from the last 6 months. She only showed me her autoships and she even sells sample packs -- for a hefty price. Isn't it that samples are given away for the consumer to test and not to be sold as well? She has a parent who feels very awkward at her because she'd force her to take supplements against her will, and in case she respectfully refuses, that would say awful things to her. She'd even go extreme by lying a lot just to recruit more. She's a Gold Director already, by the way. She's earning a lot, but it's all out of GREED.
Lazy? Sorry, I'm not like you who has to present all day or all night. I earn a modest amount of money from different kinds of sources, active and passive alike; and it was not easy to earn them at first. I have lots of friends and I have a great family in which I am not feeling awkward to and otherwise because I am not forcing anything on them.
I'm not closing my mind over MLM companies; however it seems that there is no MLM company that would take the products into priority over the recruitment or autoships/required purchases yet. Don't get me wrong, USANA has good products, but wouldn't it be nice that you're selling something that you really want to sell and you really want others to sell and not simply because "you want others to be rich"? Quotation marks intended.
Most large companies today started really small and using a small capital, but with big ideas. We can start a company with a small capital, and we can make it big. It's how Donald Trump, Robert Kiyosaki, and a lot of successful people started anyway. What we just really need are ideas. Sadly, MLM-recruitment fanatics twist this idea. :(
My friend went to a USANA training session today and I had him ask the question you posed. He said and I quote "They don't. The company pays them." According to my friend, that is what they said.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I had him ask about purchasing $100 worth of products every 4 weeks. He said that the distributors there told him that USANA does not require you to purchase $100 every 4 weeks, just that it was recommended. What do you think of all this?
In response to Mingsquared's comment,
ReplyDeleteThe company (USANA) pays them commission, but that commission comes from somewhere, and it rarely comes from selling product. The commissions generally come from downline distributor's purchases. That isn't selling anything since $100 worth of product is required to be purchased by participating USANA associates every 4 weeks.
As for the second part of your comment. The required four week purchases are required if that associate wishes to remain qualified to receive commission (whether from preferred customers or downline distributors). If the associate fails to "personally purchase" over $100 worth of product inventory during a 4 week cycle, that distributor will lose all Group Volume Points generated that has not been converted to commission. It's a very sick thing that USANA does. That is: steal rightfully earned group sales volume from their distributors just because he or she doesn't "personally purchase" a minimum quota.
The harder one tries to actually sell USANA product to the public, the quicker they will realize that it's nearly impossible. When they are about to quit, upline leaders will tell them that only quiters fail, and that they need to "Build their business", which means sell the business opportunity and recruit like crazy.
I know a nurse who quit her profession. did not pursue a career and bought into the promise of USANA's WEATH and WELLNESS promises> As of this writing her mummy is sick but she is no where to be found to bring her into a decent hospital. 1.) doesn't have budget for it 2.) no time for her because she was out socializing with her downlines and bosses.. Poor nurse an advocate of wellness to others but cant even bring her ill mother
DeleteI took a look at USANA's Binary Compensation Plan online and I could not find anything on there that specifically says the associates must make personal purchases. However it does say that an associate must achieve XXX Personal Sale Volume every 4 weeks. Would that PSV be the personal purchases?
ReplyDeleteIn response to Mingsquared,
ReplyDeleteThis is stated in USANA's annual financial SEC statements: "To be eligible to earn commissions, an Associate must purchase a certain amount of product each month ("Qualifying Purchases"), which they may resell to consumers or use personally."
So USANA has misled their distributors with the "Personal Sales Volume" (PSV) requirements. What it should really be called is "Personal Purchase Volume" (PPV)
What part of "resell to consumers" did you not understand?
DeleteI suppose by your logic, every storeowner who sells a product to a customer, must call that a Personal Purchase because he had to PURCHASE it from a wholesaler? What if he uses some of his wholesale purchase for himself?
Stop playing semantic games with half-truths or in your case, 1% truths) and start telling the TRUTH for a change.
Your problem is that you have been lying to the public about MLM for so many years that now you are incapable of recognising the truth. You would do well working for Rupert Murdoch.
Your method of logic works like this: I have a cat. It has 4 legs. I also have a dog which has 4 legs, therefore my dog is really a cat! You take snippets of truth and twist them and manipulate them to totally distort the reality. As I said before , you REALLY need help!
To reply to quoted "As I said before , you REALLY need help!"
DeleteI dare you to tell me the supposed "LIES" Watchdog has posted and post the "TRUTH" that will clear out these "lies"!
If you do, I will sincerely ask Watchdog to put down this blog. Otherwise I can safely say that you're the one distorting the truth and needing help.
If you're a retailer you will only buy your supply from the wholesaler based on the past purchases your customers did. If you see that the product does not sell, you will stop supplying yourself with the product. You call this "Consumption-based planning". You can also do a forecast of your sales and procure your products according to your forecast.
Watchdog called it "Personal Purchase" because MAJORITY of the USANA Associates have to buy the same (or greater) amount/value of products every 28 days that don't really get sold upon replenishment -- instead of having it sold to others (Sales), they are consuming the products for themselves or stock the products for their consumption soon (Purchase), stock the products hoping that they get sold soon (Stock) or forcing their relatives and/or friends to buy it (Coercion? lol).
To "what part of resell to consumers" did you not understand - as a business owner that deals with suppliers around the world (and a manager for my business) - the massive difference is that my suppliers don't REQUIRE me to buy anything - I market and sell to end use consumers and order based on my inventory requirement projections. So, forcing someone to buy something without regard for current market demand is a bad thing, not a good thing.
DeleteI find it comical that some Usana reps actually tell people the $100 a month is not required and that no one forces you to buy it.
ReplyDelete@Mingsquared - Sorry to say this but your "friend" just wants to make money off of you and is lying straight to your face. Yes, the monthly requirement is optional but if you don't pay it, you don't qualify to make any money.
That's like telling someone that it's optional to go to work. Of course it's optional but if you don't work, you don't get paid.
By the way, breathing and eating is recommended too but you don't have to do those things. LOL.
So I found out from another friend that apparently associates can get discounts on USANA products?
ReplyDeleteAnd I keep hearing that there are loopholes in the system that USANA people abuse to make more money. Can someone elaborate on what exactly those loopholes are?
I have no idea what the loopholes are but as for the discounts, I believe there are 3 prices. Retail, wholesale, and autoship.
ReplyDeleteAs a distributor, you can get the lowest price which is basically the price that we talk about anyway because NO ONE pays retail for these products and if they did, they got massively ripped off. In other words, even at the lowest "discounted" rate, you still couldn't sell enough to the general public to make a living off of this.
You can find Usana products for nearly half off the "discounted" price on Ebay where people are selling them for a loss because very few will buy these vitamins at any those higher prices.
This is why the main customer base are the distributors themselves. They're not just buying the vitamins otherwise, they wouldn't pay that much either. They buy them to qualify for the compensation plan. That's what makes buying these vitamins at that higher price worth the investment to most of them.
A relative of mine who happens to be a USANA associate caught me reading this blog.
ReplyDeleteInstead of giving me answers that can refute the information stated in this blog, she would tell me stuff like, "Instead of believing in this author, why don't you believe in Robert Kiyosaki/Donald Trump/whoever?", "USANA can give good results, they are existing for n years now", "Remember what Bo Sanchez (a famous preacher in the Philippines) said? Blah blah blah" and would even use the name of God (God wants us to be rich, so we should use the opportunity, etc).
When I asked her that question, she told me that most of her earnings came from sales, people approach her because she is slim, etc. But then again, she gained that body because she is physically active and her boyfriend is athletic.
She sold me the products against my will, and there was no improvement whatsoever, blame me and my poor lifestyle. Now even without those improvements, she'd suddenly ask me to become her downline to earn money. I suddenly realized that she also recruited the people who approached her, whether the products gave good effect on them or not.
Maybe I should start getting my butt moving and get healthy -- Then tell her that it's not just the supplements.
USANA trains their associates (and is generally the case in all MLM) to ignore negative information and only focus on the positive. MLM is treated as a religion. A bad one. Most people know it is bad, and when they try to help their family members who get sucked into this bad MLM religion they are treated as if they speak of blasphemy.
ReplyDeleteIt is a common phrase that MLM associates use to claim that "they are approached" by customers. That is hardly the case. You don't just walk up to someone and say "Hey, you look slim and healthy! Are you selling some food supplements?" Supplements don't make someone slim or in shape. Athleticism, working out, and eating right keep someone slim and in shape.
Most people do not notice any improvements to their health or lifestyle when taking vitamins because unless you are seriously deficient in a particular vitamin or mineral, your body doesn't need additional resources. In fact, the placebo has a greater effect on people than USANA vitamins. Most people stop using USANA products, so according to the majority of people who have tried it, USANA products are not worth it. I guess those people are just stupid. Actually, those people are smart for not wasting any more of their money on "overpriced" product. Tens of thousands of companies sell vitamins. Most sell their product much cheaper than USANA.
The motive to recruit people into the business is the fact that the only way to be successful in USANA is by selling the opportunity to get rich. The products only act as tokens in the pay to play scheme. USANA takes raw materials that cost as much as dirt, press it into a capsule/pill, bottle it, and sell it for an ungodly amount. USANA profits greatly while 99% of their distributors (who are the primary buyers) end up LOSING money. That's no business, that's a scam.
Thanks for the comment! Good luck on getting healthy!
So what Company Vitamins can you recommend?
DeleteHmm, Watch Dog, who pay you to do all this?
ReplyDeleteNobody pays me to do anything. I do not make anything from this either.
DeletePerhaps, but your bile-filled rantings over the years have shown what you really are - a miserable hate-filled person who cannot abide the thought of someone becoming successful.
DeleteI have yet to see any "hate" from this person all he is giving you are facts. Facts are neither good or bad they simply are. Unless you can refute his facts please shut up.
DeleteThe hate come from the persons whose income was critically affected by this USANAWATCHDOG site comments. Can the hate come primarily from USANA affiliates by challenging people with different viewpoints?
DeleteI don't like how usana pushes the business over the products. Why do I need to spend $100 a month just to keep my business open. Why is usana products so expensive? Will they guarantee me a long and healthy life? If I take them I'll never get cancer? Will I notice a difference if I take usana vitamins or generic store brand vitamins? Probably not. Also, the whole way usana makes you balance both sides. If I have 20,000 points on my left side and only 1000 on the right guess what? I only get paid for 1000 points. Usana is cult like and most distributors won't let goal of the company because their up lines keep pumping lies into them. Also with usana they can change their restructuring if they wanted too. You could be a gold director making $30,000.00 and then usana could change how much you make. There is nothing you can do about it.
ReplyDelete" . . . USANA pushes the business over the products"! I cannot think of a better example of why you have been unsuccessful in USANA. IT IS A BUSINESS!!!That is why it exists - DUH!
DeleteI have been in many MLMs and the ONLY one which has always come out smelling of roses has been USANA.
You need to keep taking the products for very simple reasons, namely, that if you do NOT take them you will have no personal experience of how incredibly effective they are, which means that you will have absolutely NO credibility with any prospective customers! Would you have faith in a pilot who did not have a clue about flying a plane?!! Would you buy a new car from a salesman who did not know how to drive?!! If you take the products then you are a positive example to all your downline. Monkey see, monkey do!
The products are expensive when compared to the crap sold in supermarkets, but not at all when compared to other nutritional products of similar calibre and quality.
Will the products guarantee you a healthy life? Well they will certainly guarantee you a HEALTHIER life.
Will you not get cancer if you take them? If you knew anything about cancer cells, you would know that our immune systems recognise and destroy cancer cells EVERY day. It is a normal function of out incredible immune systems. Every person is different. BUT, if you have an immune system working at optimal capacity, then you have a MUCH higher chance of avoiding deadly cancers than those people with a compromised immune system. USANA nutritionals make immune systems work at optimal capacity. The choice is up to you.
The Binary System: If you have a network which has 20 000 points on one side and only 1000 on the other, then you are NO LONGER WORKING the business! And, normally, if you do not work, you get fired! BUT USANA does not fire you. It allows you to keep an out of balance network in case you finally decide to actually start working again - try gettng that in the general workplace!
USANA does not change how much you make! There are very clear Policies and Procedures which are legally binding to all in the Company. It would be a political disaster if the Company tried to stop someone earning whatever they were entitled to. USANA wants people to earn large incomes! Large incomes means that lots of people are buying the products and getting healthier - and that is the best advert money can buy!
As for USANA being a cult? Get real! That is farcical garbage. If you want to join a cult, go to Amway! Now THERE is a CULT! - and I speak from bitter experience with that one.
just like your employer could fire you as much as he likes. there is nothing you can do about it.
ReplyDeleteWhat a ridiculous statement! Read the first sentence again . . . ! If your employer fires you, he cannot do it again! Do you write for Faux News?
DeleteIt is amazing how many posters on this website are just so full of hate for MLM! I have had happy connections with the industry for many years and would highly recommend it to anyone who would wish to build a business to create wealth for the future. However, that being said, I would also add that only those who follow the guidelines of their company of choice will actually make any serious money. Like any business, an MLM membership takes WORK and in my long experience EVERY person I know who 'failed' in their venture, did so because they did NOT work their business. Most had an idea that all they had to do was to talk to a couple of friends, persuade them to join up, and then sit back and count the cash rolling in. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH! Every successful distributor works very hard and follows guidelines EXACTLY. If the company suggests that you need to talk to 100 people to get 20 serious business builders, then that is EXACTLY what you need to do. Think of it like this: if you own a store, many people will come in ad browse and then go out again. Do you lock the doors and give up? Of course not, you know that some of those will come back and buy, others will tell their friends, who will come and buy, and there are many others who walk in, purchase, and then come back regularly. The REGULARS are the 'builders' in an MLM business. They use the products and they TELL other people about them. That is how MLM works. Very simple, BUT it needs continuous input. If you have a store with regular customers, you will (if you are a good business person) automatically behave in a manner which will encourage those persons to return again and again.When they tell others, your business expands - word of mouth is the best advert EVER!
ReplyDeleteThe first asset you need in MLM is HONESTY - and especially with yourself. If you know that you are not going to be able to talk to new prospects every week then DO NOT JOIN MLM! Learn how to feel comfortable talking to strangers by practice and by reading selfhelp literature. When you find that you have lost your shyness(and it will happen faster than you think!)then it is time to have a serious look at MLM.
I will not ramble on with more details as a good MLM will be delighted to help you grow your business and you can have a lot of fun learning. And, if your first choice does not work as you thought it might, don't beat yourself up! Just have another go with a different Company - there are hundreds of them! Every millionaire has failed dozens of times! BUT each one kept trying until they learned how to find success. Go for it!
@Anonymous Mar 14, 2012 01:11 PM
ReplyDeleteHonesty in MLM, hmm. You're probably full of honesty but you need to realize a lot of your fellow Usanaians are BS'ers. You can't blame people for calling a company a scam when it's filled with people who often stretch the truth in hopes of recruiting people in order to make money.
I see that you've commented on several past comments. I see that you have a lot of passion for Usana but I guarantee you that your words aren't going to change anyone's mind especially when you simply come across as another brainwashed MLMer.
Someone wrote: USANA pushes the business over the products and you laughed at that because you believe that's what businesses do. Nope. Businesses sell products. McDonald's isn't ever going to go around begging people to open a McDonald's. People come to them. Again, businesses sell products.
Your whole talk about how sellers of Usana has to buy the product because otherwise, they would have no credibility when talking to people is cute but fails in making any valid points. So you're saying reps have to buy the products in order to be more "credible" when they sell it? If that's the case, why are reps who haven't made a dime trying to recruit people into a money making business?
The real reason why you're forced to buy products is so the company can make a profit. I don't know you but I know for a fact that you don't make much money selling products to actual customers. Most of your money is from purchases made by your downline.
Seriously, if you people just admit the obvious, there wouldn't be as many people hating on your company. Usana is mainly about recruiting in order to sell products to those recruits. Is it really that hard to admit? That's the bottom line and if you don't think that's true, then you're brainwashed my friend.
I'm with USANA, and it is about recruiting people and building teams/networks. What's wrong with that and where is the ethical dilemma?
DeleteI make a very healthy passive income as an associate, and I'm obviously thankful that I was shown this opportunity last year. Why would I think of my up-line in a negative way when he hasn't deceived me at all. He's helped me and I've helped him. It's a nice feeling waking up in a different country and still getting paid.
Why the hate?
Why the hate?
DeleteYou are still too early in it to know.
Some upline looks like nice people, but they are evil deep inside. If you are smart, you will see it.
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ReplyDeleteTo become an USANA gold director, you'd be needing 200 downlines/PCs that would autoship products worth $100-$150 every 28 days on each side. in other words you'd be needing the help of 400 people.
ReplyDelete400 people x $100 = $40,000/28 days and you get $1,000/weekly
I'd like a gold director to prove me wrong.
or atleast do the math for me.
The exception is if a distributor recruits 8 people each week selling each one of them a $1250 Professional Pack worth 1250 points. In theory, it could take 28 days to become Gold from the start with only recruited 32 distributors. A $1250 purchase like this exceeds the $500 minimum where the business opportunity falls under the "Franchise Rule" and therefore must make all the necessary franchise disclosures which would put USANA out of business because they would have to tell the truth and reveal how massive the loss rates are.
DeleteThey use fake accounts as you should already know and some people pointed out.
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ReplyDeleteIf she can recruit enough people to be in the same situation as her right now, she can make her money back and start earning some money as well. Of course, each of the people she recruits will need bring in enough people to get out of the same situation themselves. Once they do that, the people her recruits recruit will have to do the same. It's an endless chain of recruiting. Usana continues to sell their products and increase their earnings while the countless amount of new recruits struggle to recruit more people just to break even.
ReplyDeleteOr you can tell her to try to make that $1,500 back by retailing the products. With the demand for Usana products at its current price level, she can easily get her money back within a few years. LOL.
Recruiting is faster but the more successful she is, the more people she will directly or indirectly screw over. That's MLM for you.
You can always ask for a refund but she might not want to do that because she probably bought into the idea that doing so would be considered quitting and being a failure/loser.
"Brainwashed" is the best description that I can find.
ReplyDeleteMy wife spent around $1,500 and is going to obtain a $100.
But in 4 weeks she will spend another $265 in products.
She is still exited thinking that, at some point, she will earn money. I feel sad being in the middle of this. I see the numbers and I don’t understand how she is still thinking that is a great business.
Yes, another brainwashed will say that she most “work” more… but I think that she could earn more working in an office.
Thank you for confirming that USANA is a legitimate company.
ReplyDeleteThat's all I need to know. It is not a scam.
It's just people are different.
Some are forcing others to join and some don't.
But don't generalize. Because not all USANA people are alike.
It really is up to the person who's doing the business.
Wishing you sucess... I hope you don't lose too much money before you quit, and I hope you apologise for the lies you tell customers and recruits.
DeleteLies lies and more lies a lie repeated 100 times is still a lie. The truth will remain the truth. And you can be ridiculed as not having an open mind or stupid for trying to seek the truth. That is how MLM companies work. Lies are dumped in quick succession leaving you with no time to analyze and decide.
DeleteWow.. so far this have been very informative. I just joined USANA few days ago since me and my family have tried and were satisfied with the products. I dont know what's the fuzz is all about but if I have my own company and some people wants to sell my products and earn commission from it, then I have to set my own rules, rules that my be challenging but not impossible to make. Should I lay down the commission plan to a level that all salesman would reach? Hell NO! Otherwise I will be firing my Accountant if I found out that my Gross Profit is just enough to cover my Commission Expenses. As to date I got around 200 dollars profit in selling the product alone. That wasn't hard at all. I'm not recruiting yet since I wanted my clients to feel the difference before encouraging them to join,should they decide if they wanted to do the business. There's always difficulty in everything that we do, that's what separates the wannabes to those driven, the boy from a man. So please don't say USANA is a scam just because you find it hard or impossible to meet the criterias given to earn commission. Have you ever wonder why being a being a lawyer, an engineer a CPA was so hard? because if it is attainable to all, then there wouldn't be anyone who will do those blue collar jobs. have you ever heard someone who failed the Board Exam say that "its a scam!!" since not all who have taken it bacame successful and they have wasted so much time just to study? I hope you're seeing the logic. I agree to what the other guy have said, you have to use the product and feel the difference so you can sell it. So you can look at your client's eyes and tell them with all honesty that this thing actually works. MLM is not for everyone. Im not even sure that this is for me. So why am I doing this? Because I can see the opportunity to earn more in these products, from this company. One thing for sure is that I wouldn't be ranting that this is a "scam" just because I was unable to get a commission. If I get it, well good job, if I dont, well let's try again.. Well I do think you are paid to do this.. lol! USANA's commission plan maybe tough, but definitely this company isn't a scam, otherwise it would be such a shame for US to let this company be publicly listed.
ReplyDelete:-)
You really should read what you've written before you hit "enter". Your comment seems like it was written by an illiterate child; and that doesn't help Usana's image at all. Also, the word is "Fuss", not "Fuzz". Most importantly, if you joined Usana a few days ago as you state, then there is absolutely no way you could have earned $200 selling vitamins in such a short time. Rather than replying to me with an argument, prove me wrong. Post your statement from usana showing that you earned $200 in less than a week...OR, you could just stop lying and go read a book.
Deleteahahah.. so I am the illiterate child here? you sure about that? I am not forcing you to believe me though. But try this, Sales - Cost of Sales = Profit. So let me give you a figure then, so that your small brain could go to work.
DeleteRetail price 115
Autoship price 87
Profit 28
If you have sold 10 of these, you got 280 dollars.
I wouldn't be surprise if a loner like wouldn't be selling even one though. But I do have friends and colleagues who believe in me. You know why I was able to sell it in that short period of time? coz my wife, my mom and I have tried the product and it really works. So you dont have to pitch so hard just to sell this. i just said, hey you know what I have tried this vitamins that really works, it worked for me, my wife and my mom, maybe you want to give it a try? :-)
Why dont you give it a try man.. besides, you are the captain of your own ship. if you know what i mean? ;-)
How do the products "work"? Do you have a serious vitamin deficiency or something?
DeleteKeep popping those synthetic pills... They're gonna kill ya...
Hello All, I just returned from a meeting with a friend who is a Gold Director and she has been doing it for 10 years now. She says she has 200+ associates and customers in total. SHe is using the product too and that it has given her good health, and she says she is earning about 6000 per month paying taxes on earning etc.
ReplyDeleteI am fine with all that. Reading this post, I am thinking that maybe her health is improving becos she keeps using it and like some ppl here have said ( and also on the wiki page I found a person experiement) that if you stop using then your health gets bad, not like a normal medicine, but like you were addicted to the products .... so that you need to keep buying it ...
Any ideas?
You need at least 400 associates in a perfect scenario to be a solid gold, so I think she is trying to deceive people to join them... Shame on her.. Good Luck..
ReplyDeleteA quick comment and correction on this thread. I also am a USANA Gold Director. Yes, I have many customers, but I also have recruits, and these recruits have their recruits. This IS about building a NETWORK. As far as stating "Distributors are forced to purchase about $100 in product per month," this is actually untrue. They don't have to buy anything. 1. They can continue to purchase products (as needed) at wholesale cost and sell it at retail, just as in a regular business. 2. If they choose not to buy the approx $100 monthly minimum, then yes, they lose their commission volume (until they choose to re-start their minimum). But let me ask you, if you ran a regular store, and stopped paying rent, electricity, phone, etc -- you'd have your store shut down! No business runs without expenses. None! In fact, if you choose not to purchase anything in USANA at all, after having signed up, your business center does not get taken away; it simply goes dormant, and is subject only to an annual $20 renewal. Our business is actually a pay-your-expenses-as-you go situation. Don't like your income/expenses results? Simply stop making your monthly purchase! (Not even the cell phone companies do that!)
ReplyDeleteDo many people "fail" at making money in MLM? Yes, quite a bit do. It's because of several factors. First, the business opportunity is oversold. Can you make millions? Absolutely. (Can you make millions selling shoes? Yes, absolutely.) Either way, it requires focus, discipline and WORK. Unfortunately, there are too many distributors (even in our company) that make it seem like you just sign up and the money falls from the trees. That is a disservice to everyone, and yes, we MLMer's have created it. I have many distributors who have fallen off the business building track, but they continue to order the products every month, because they love the product benefits. We don't bug them about their failure to make money, and the company in no way EVER penalizes them or obliges them to purchase anything. I don't make millions, but I have made a nice check every single week for over 10 years, and no one's out to get me. I like that. --Jo Baecker
Jo Baecker,
DeleteUSANA Distributors love to claim the $100 personal purchase made by associates to be commission eligible is not a required purchase, and then follow their statement up by comparing these personal purchases to the rent, electric, and phone bills associated to an actual store. In other words, it is a required purchase. Oh no, you don't NEED to purchase the product, just like you don't need to pay your rent or electric bills. But if you fail to pay, you won't have a business.
You wrote "We don't bug them about their failure to make money, and the company in no way EVER penalizes them or obliges them to purchase anything."
Upline distributors don't bug their downline for their failure to make money, they bug their downline for their failure to personally purchase product every 4 weeks. It is built into the downline management software to flag you if any downline members are not purchasing product so you can call them and badger them until they do purchase.
USANA does penalize associates if they fail to personally purchase over $100 worth of products every 4 weeks. They do this by taking away any group volume points the associate has generated. They do this by not letting that associate collect a commission check, even if the associate has 1000 preferred customers purchasing products. The associate gets ZERO in return, UNLESS the associate personally purchases over $100 worth of product. That is a forced purchase.
These forced purchases make up the majority of USANA's net sales. As a result, the majority of commission paid out comes from the required purchases by associates in order to participate in the business opportunity. The FTC has defined this result as an illegal pyramid scheme. FTC Letter To Direct Selling Association
what happens then to the promise of part time? passive income? when eventually you will be baited into a full time demanding work? isn't that misleading to begin with.. I know a nurse graduate who first bought into the idea that she could go on an Asian cruise by succeeding in USANA's business Years past into her USANA membership that goal of travelling evolve into being a leader now dreaming of riches while helping others thru health and wellness . she never pursue a career but now works full time in USANA. Day in day out she is out doing her business. She sold her dreams and hopes to her relatives and friends. She can confidently present her business to other people. She dresses well like the ones you expect from the corporate world. I would say that USANA has transformed her from a shy fresh graduate into a Confident Charming Sales person. She is fierce relentless competitive and always on the attack mode. She was a perfect Soldier. Obey first before you complain.. She attended seminars almost every sunday. Gained leadership skills from reputable institutions. She had spiritual awareness by joining a church . She genuinely believe that she was on the right track. She will never rest her laurels keep pushing on the bounderies. Never an ordinary as they profess. she was commendable exceptional in her dealings. She had the right attitude and again like a true soldier she will execute orders plans into perfection.
Delete5 years fast forward she is now a DIAMOND DIRECTOR. From the outsiders one could say that she already achieve her goals and the world is her oysters. As an observer I'd like to think that She is destined to achieve her dreams.
Except:
1.) that Asian cruise is still a dream. (what if she pursued nursing and work abroad?)
2.) Along the way relatives got suspicious of her some of them becomes her client but never financially recover their investments (maybe health wise YES).
3.)She still struggles to meet her dues. RENTAL
4.)keeps posting good stuff on social media but couldnt afford to treat her family to a decent resto
5) the other day her mom got an alarming high fever. Everyone in her siblings were relying on her to bring her to the hospital knowing that she espouses entrepreneur lifestyle (she owns her time) to my surprise she did not show up.
a.) doesnt have health card and or budget for medical cost so much for a health and wellness advocacy. I DONT BELIEVE IT ALL
This is A REAL LIFE USANA story.
regarding 5).. probably because she is either
Delete1) embarrass that even though her mom ate the vitamins she still have high fever so she didn't go to hospital with her.
2) she thinks the vitamins will cure her so that is why she didn't bring her to the hospital.
Instead of writing something negative about what people do with their lives, like earning extra income from USANA, why not write about something you like so it would be positive? Obviously, you used to be a member of a MLM company and you failed that's why you are attacking USANA. Nobody is forcing you to join this company so please stop being negative or please try the products first before saying something bad about our business. God bless you.
ReplyDeleteI'm writing about those people who do not earn over a penny's worth of profit from USANA, which is 99% of all the distributors. I know distributors are not forcing others to join USANA's scam. However, they are using misleading and deceptive material to lure others into joining USANA's scam.
DeleteWhen you recruit someone, do you tell them that 99% of participating distributors make no profit? Do you tell them the opportunity requires them to purchase a minimum of $1430 each year on product which they cannot collect commission on? Do you tell them a USANA distributor did the "research, layout, and editing" for every edition of the Comparative Guide to Nutritional Supplements and that the same distributor was also co-owner of the book's publisher "Nutrisearch"? Do you tell them Myron Wentz's "Einstein award" was given by Global Capital Associates, an investment firm that has nothing to do with science and ceased to exist the year after they gave the made up award to Myron? Do you tell them USANA pays the publisher for the "Physician's Desk Reference for Drugs" a listing/advertisement fee to have their products listed in the book and that anyone can list their products there as long as they pay the fee? Do you tell them the products are dumped on auction websites at a fraction of the cost by distributors who quit and those that seek to advance in leadership ranking at a quick pace? Do you tell them that less than 1% of distributors are Gold Directors or higher? Do you tell them that USANA spends less than 1% on research and development?
I doubt distributors tell those they try to recruit any of the above facts.
So what's the average gold director on pa? Does this vary greatly? If so from what to what?
ReplyDeletewow...love readings negatives and positive comments..You know what guys..it's better to be in positive ways of thinking because it will magnet to yourself..if you think negatively then it will happen to you too..in some ways that's the power of thinking..power of mind,,,
ReplyDeleteSome USANA ASSOCIATES joined for just couple of mos and rank advance into directors or whatever fastly,,the reason why?? because they are dedicated and they want to have the results as fast it would be..facing rejections like the readings above and negative views of people is one hindrance that USANA distributors/associates whatever need to overcome..Actually it's not brainwashing effect or forcing effect..because if ONE says NO..then next,,someone's waiting...If you ever tried to review or interview i mean..one by one those who have succeed because of USANA, then you will know how they've done that..It's not idolizing a company..or whatever cults is it,,,or bla bla..it's also the same as having your job that you have your employer..but in USANA you decide what's the best for yourself...If you like then go on..if you don't like then kick your ass out...perseverance,determination right thru your goals and targets is all that it takes..but still we don't need to forget that GOD is our greatest UPLINE and no one else..
For USANA Associates, peoples rejections and negative comments duh duh whatsoever is their tools on how to success...nobody can stop them in sharing the goodness and wellness that they strongly believe..just like negatives..you can say negatives whenever you wanted too..just keep it up guys,..because this is the world of reality...:) :)
Do you think God approves of MLM? There's scripture that talks about Jesus and how he dealt with con artists who are trying to rip other people off, so I doubt invoking God into a discussion of recruiting associates is a very good idea. It also looks like you have watched "The Secret" and are fixated on the "Law of Attraction" myth. You can believe whatever you want, but for your belief to come true in USANA, 99% of the remaining associates must fail.
DeleteWhat's the pAy at various levels? Does anyone know?
ReplyDeletesomething worth mentioning. I am not a user or affiliated with USANA, but a friend/aquantiance recently msged me on Facebook wanting to catch up with for dinner (whom I haven't spoken to got years) she then mentioned about usana and how I should buy it to better my health. I doubt she was at all concerned abt my health rather only wanting to sell me overpriced vitamins. I am also a true believer that healthy eating abd exercises out performs any supplement. there is plenty of evidence your body cant absorb a large percentage of these supplements. so essentially we are buying very expensive urine
ReplyDeleteNice of her to want to genuinely reconnect, eh?. If I had a dime for every party I got invited to that turned out to be a MLM party...
DeleteWow! Some folks are just plain dumb people who want you to be trapped in the 40 hour work week where you will always be broke! I'm not a Usana dist. but they give the average person the chance to better their lives. So what if they tried to sell you something since that's what sales people do! Weird how people seem to think you need to own a store before it's not a "scam" when they try to sell you something! They real pyramid scheme is the traditional business where the people at the bottom make those at the top rich with almost NO chance of ever moving up to better themselves! People like the so called Usana watch DOG are just screwed up in their thinking!
ReplyDeleteHaha... You're deluded my friend. Let me try and help you out.
DeleteIf you work and get paid, you make a profit, your wages. There is no reason why you can’t view your “40 hour week” job as your business and your boss and others you give work to as your customers. If you perform well in your current role and are not recognised, just apply elsewhere. Simple...
When you are part of a pyramid scheme however (such as Usana), only the top people (less than 1%) make any real money. Do the math and think about Usana’s compensation plan. How many associates would it take for you to recover your costs? If you are forced to buy $100 worth of Usana’s products, you would need 5 associates on your left leg, and 5 on your right just to break even.
To make $1000 per week, you would need 50 associates on your left and 50 on your right. If you were to map this out the poor people on the lower rungs will never make any money.
Then you need to factor real business expenses such as travel costs, telephone expenses, and promotional materials, as well as the time and effort to prospect and attend presentations.
Think about how quickly a town or city can be saturated and how easily the pyramid can collapse (the associates at the bottom quit, then the next level up quits, then the next). The only way for Usana to survive is to start the scheme in new countries as the established areas regress.
Knowing the above and the fact that Usana’s products aren’t earth-shattering, you now try and recruit new associates. This is where the scam begins, and you become a merchant of bullshit. You lie about how great the products are, how this person or that person feels so much better because of them, how you are REALLY into promoting good health, how you can get financial and time freedom etc... but presenters will never disclose the real statistics and truth.
Good luck if you make it in this pyramid scheme as you’re swimming upstream. But what really irks me is the lies and deception which comes with the territory.
United States federal government mandates a nationwide minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Those dumb people you call “trapped in the 40 hour work week” make a minimum of $7.25 per hour, or $58 per day, or $290 per week, or $15,080 per year.
DeleteLets assume this individual works an extra 10 hours per week for a 50 hour week every week for the year. Time and a half is nice. So now this individual would make $79.75 per day, or 398.75 per week, or $20,735 per year. Seems pretty good for a minimum wage job. Many of these minimum wage jobs don't pay minimum wage after the first 90 days of employment and most certainly after the first year.
Many of these so called 40 hour work weeks you complain about also have benefits such as health insurance or reimbursement plans, dental, 401K plans, and many paid vacation and personal days.
Now you claim USANA gives “the average person” a chance to better their lives. Unfortunately, that is very far from the truth. 66% of USANA distributors never receive a single commission check (stated on their North American average earnings document where only one third receive a commission check). So much for your claim about the average person having the chance to better their lives. In fact, 99% of USANA distributors never make a profit! (Subtract all the business expenses from the gross revenue).
USANA states that the average yearly (gross) income for a USANA associate is $616.72, which equates to $11.86 per week or $1.70 per day.
So while you speak ill about someone working 40 hours at a traditional business, the minimum payout to the employee is $290 per week. Compare this to USANA's own numbers that show a weekly (mean) average of $11.86 per week. Don't forget, two thirds of USANA associates received $0.00.
I've got a better idea for those who are thinking of joining USANA. Take the $250 you would be required to spend on joining USANA and activating a single business center ($29.95 enrollment fee + the purchase of 200 Personal Volume Points worth of product) and take that money and put it all on a single number on the roulette table. That way you more than double your chances of making a profit than becoming a USANA associate. The odds are then 2.63% (roulette) instead of 1% (USANA Associate). And the payout you would receive is quite substantial! You would make $8500!!!
Good luck on your endeavors! Look forward to your rebuttal.
In USANA only your upline who gets rich.
ReplyDeleteTake note people those who boast their purchases based on their earnings are planted. e.g. cars, branded items etc....
If you want to get rich best to put up a business that will be long term. These business are just short term. I am not saying that people are not earning but those who are Gold Ruby etc... are just a few percentage against those who did not make it.
Dear Open Ur Eyes:
ReplyDeleteLet me quote you... "Dumb people in Utah.They believe in anything." Yes. This Utah gal believes in correct grammar and spelling. Something that is lacking in your reply.
As for you, USANA Watch Dog, love this post! I find reading posts written by Usana distributors on Facebook, pure entertainment.
Wow, my brain will be stuck in stupid mode after reading these posts.
ReplyDeleteCan we look at the phrase, "pyramid scheme". A pyramid scheme is where someone at the bottom cant earn more money then the person above them, right? Okay so correct me if im wrong. Say we are just in an everyday business. Theres say, me? Ill play the role of a salesmen. I cant earn more money then the manager? Nor the ceo? So would you, shouldnt you call this a pyramid scheme? Where as usana give you the oppurtunity to make what yoy want out of it. The sky is the limit. If you work your business in usana enough you can earn more money then the person above you or the person above that person, so on and so forth. People get in to the business knowing all well about the risks. If they fail, that is their fault. Usana has changed my way of living and the products have given me optimal health. Dr. Myron Wentz is a genius with what he does. Why not have a look at the credible and third party comparative guide to nutritional supplements. If anything was wrong with information in that book, Lyle MacWilliam would have his ass sued. And the book would not be avaliable to the public.
ReplyDeleteI congratulate you on dedicating your life to your own lie that you have convinced yourself to believe as the truth.
In response to "If you work your business in usana enough you can earn more money then the person above you or the person above that person, so on and so forth."
DeleteDescribe what it means to "work your business in USANA". Explain what the associate who is looking to make $100,000 over the next 3 years is suppose to do.
In response to "People get in to the business knowing all well about the risks."
That's a lie. Neither USANA or the distributors disclose the percentage of associates that drop out within the first year. They do not disclose the percentage of associates that make no profit. They do not disclose the truth.
You wrote "If they fail, that is their fault."
They are set up to fail by design. You take as much of their money up front and let them fail. Very rarely are there any retail sales taking place. The products are over priced.
In response to "Why not have a look at the credible and third party comparative guide to nutritional supplements."
This is the book written by Lyle MacWilliam, Arlene Macwilliam, and Gregg Gies. Gregg was a USANA distributor when he started the books in 1999. He then co-founded Nutrisearch. The only people who purchase the book are the USANA distributors. It is nothing more than a tool used by USANA reps to recruit others into the pyramid scheme.
i love you usanawatchdog :)
ReplyDeleteNow this is a very odd comment and almost deleted it for its total lack of content. However, I think it is kind of funny.
Deleteto the anonymous haters here... would we rather believe you than those people who already had results? and how about this usanawatchdog, is your name listed in the FORBES magazine? why should we believe you? USANA is plain and simple, if you dont want to join, dont.
DeleteEven if usanawatchdog was not on the FORBES magazine, he/she is still much better than the frauds on USANA who are/were. Here are your FORBES heroes (or should I say clowns):
Delete"During 2007, USANA faced repeated controversy after several of its executives were discovered to have made false statements regarding their qualifications.[4] The executives included Denis Waitley, a member of the board of directors who had falsely claimed to hold a master's degree from the Naval Postgraduate School;[4][15] sales associate Ladd McNamara, who quit the company's medical advisory board after it was discovered that his license to practice medicine had been revoked;[16][17][18] the Vice President of Research and Development, Timothy Wood, who was found to have doctorate in forestry, as opposed to biology as he had claimed;[19] and the Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Gilbert Fuller, who had continued to use the title of CPA,[20] though his CPA license had expired 10 years before he joined USANA in 1996.[4][19][21] In August 2007, USANA announced that it had been notified by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) that its shares were subject to delisting from the NASDAQ because the company had failed to have the financial information in its quarterly Form 10-Q reviewed by an independent auditor. USANA reported this was due to their public accountant resigning and not yet being replaced.[22] In October 2007, USANA announced that NASDAQ had determined they were in compliance and their stock would continue to be listed.[23]"
Seriously, if you trust people making false claims about their credentials, foresters and doctors who had their licenses revoked promoting to you health products go to USANA.
While you are still there hating USANA for what it is not, we are here living the life because we decided to join this opportunity. I am earning $5000 a week right now while helping people how to build their business too. And to prove that MLM is a legitimate business, let me cite some MORE TRUSTED people:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.businessforhome.org/2011/06/direct-selling-featured-in-wall-street-journal/
“If you are a person with big dreams and would love to support others in achieving their big dreams, then the network marketing business is definitely a business for you. You can start your business part-time at first and then as your business grows, you can help other people start their part-time business. This is a value worth having – a business and people who help others make their dreams come true.”
Robert T. Kiyosaki, Entrepreneur and Author
“Of all the entrepreneurial opportunities available today, one of the most important is direct selling, also called network marketing.”
Paul Zane Pilzer, Nobel Prize Winning Economist and Author
My hatred to USANA business is not about how much money you can earn....it is about how ethically the business runs and how much important information you are trying to hide while you are recruiting people. I can see personally my friends have been brainwashed by the business and become greedy dreamers. I don't really care how successful the extremely small amount of you guys are and what famous people are supporting the business. To me your success is achieved by your greed and lies, rather than your 'kind sharing'...I don't think this kind of success is sustainable. However, for all fairness, the quality of USANA products should not be discussed together with their business style.
Deleteif they were so good and the products are really amazing then how come all leading drugstores are not selling their drugs?? i think its more easier that way, and besides here at the philippines all members of usana was all jerk imagine a party that was meant for the members has a fee?? and the training meant for the members has a fee too? i think it must be free to be able to help the downlines to sell more of their products?? its crap.
ReplyDeletei dont see recruiting people to be your downlines as a business, i am a newly recruited associate, and still under training. the product is good but the recruiting part is a dirty work.
ReplyDeletei enjoy every motivational seminar and other strategy, i can use those techniques in putting up another business.
yes, i agree on every anti -mlm in here. i am not yet brainwashed by these millionares and wannabes, im just copying some of their good techniques. other motivational and business seminar will cost me thousand bucks but in usana trainings it will only cause me hundreds, haha!
they said that you will gain time freedom in here, that's not real. when attrition comes and all your downlines are gone, you need to get people again and again. thats why mentors and uplines are keeping the momentum on their team.
My roommate is one of these brainwashed Usana people. She loves the company but has never made a commission check. She attends their $10 a head meetings where they hand out more kool-aid and continue with their indoctrination. No matter how hard I try to tell her that this company is nothing but a poster child for "snake oil salesmen," she refuses to understand it and goes into defense mode. She now is actively trying to get her overweight daugher in law signed up extolling the ease of her losing weight while taking the supplements. You would think people would have more common sense but the desperate poor will always buy into get rich quick schemes.
ReplyDeleteI have only joined as associate for 3 months and recruited 4 people, we sold enough USANA products as a group in 3 months to make me a silver director. I made my upline a director, yes, her rank is lower than me! If you are smart to figure out how people shop in this century, you don't have to sell to friends and family. Clue: Google is my friend.
ReplyDeleteI am creating my blog post when I got to this page. Do you know the 10 best selling products of Usana? Thank you.
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