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USANA's 2-star diamond director Aaron Dinh quits and joins Nerium International instead, another multilevel marketing pyramid scheme. Aaron was also a member of USANA's prestigious million dollar club. Why would someone at the top of the distributor hierarchy need to quit and start over with a similar scheme? I've sent Aaron a message asking for his comment and have not received any reply.
Thought this was note worthy since USANA would like people to believe in residual income. Well, when your downline drops out, you have no more income.
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| October 22, 2012: Aaron Dinh's Lamborghini |
Wonder if he will now start telling everyone that Nerium's products are best on the market? Magically even better than Usana's too right?
ReplyDeleteex-silver director 2009
ReplyDeleteDinh was also in another company before usana and it was called 2by2 with duke tubtim who was the top earner... Dinh followed Duke tubtim in usana when 2by2 died out.... and Duke was far more successful than Dihn in USana also. When duke left usana..... Dihn told all his top directors in a special meeting that he will never leave us. He talked so much crap about Duke tubtim saying that Aarix paid him 100,000 to quit usana which was stupid because we all know Duke was making more than that..... Dihn said you will quit on yourself before I quit on you.... Guess what Dihn quit on you and took all the cash out from your family's pro pack... including mine btw..... Dihn won. he took our money.... he profited from all of us........ he called Duke a sell out for leaving USANA sooooo whose the sell out now? you're acutally worse off than Duke now in a miracle wonder face drugs that cost 1,000 to sign up....
He is now going to Nerium.. I saw the videos of the before and after of Nerium's facial product and they seem to work.... I bet the products did a lot of upgrade on Cathy Ngo's face that they decided to join a company with a worst compensation plan... I have no idea why Dihn would leave a money generating business (thanks to Nancy On who is under Dinh) Dinh was a member of the Usana's IDC so I assume he knew all of USANAs dark secrets... duke left before Dinh so he is smarter. I bet he left because he knew something bad was going to happen to the company..... I am glad I got rid of my usana stocks long time ago...
Dinh also told us:
why aren't you guys sharing this product to everyone.. it cures cancer
I wonder what he will say about Nerium now?
very knowledgeable for a EX "silver director" lol should of told this while you were in it, doing it. But in the end I did get very good skills that has help me in the future move up the ladder In my job.
DeleteThanks for the training
@Ex-Silver Director 2009 Hi. Is there anyway that you can send me an email? I have a couple of questions and I realized I should hear it from you since you were with USANA and had a first hand experience. My email is remuz102689@gmail.com Thanks!
Delete"Dinh also told us:
Deletewhy aren't you guys sharing this product to everyone.. it cures cancer
I wonder what he will say about Nerium now?"
He will say it cures world hunger.
just, LOL
ReplyDeleteThe reason why USANA is big is because most of the unstable binary company shuts down and transfer to USANA because it's the "Logical Choice". Their product is overpriced, their compensation is to the advantage of the company, and in fairness to USANA. They have so much sizzle but no steak.
ReplyDeleteex-silver director 2009
DeleteIt's never a logical choice to join an MLM even though its binary. my opinion why it is big is because their training (brainwashing) is so strong. It has Utah religion power strong.. Most MLM and religions are started in UTAH.... they all have one thing in common.. brainwashing power.. this website exposes that it is mathematically impossible to make any money with the compensation plan because word of mouth advertising sales for tiny amount of points isn't enough to make your time worth it. What is profitable is gathering a big meeting and tricking people to buying $1250 packages which is fast money... big momentum could keep up the cycle to a few months or years to big losses at the bottom and small amount on top get quick rich...
the weakness of the infinite binary is it is capped at 5,000 points in that week....... lets say you want to sell the products honestly and try to move products in that week..... the VERY BEST preferred customer enroller averages 8 products a week.. and averaging 30 points each sale.. 240 points a week in products..... let me repeat (THE VERY BEST PC enroller)..... let us say you are maxed at 5,000 points in one leg... you can try all you want but you can't get max value for the binary anyways because it is physically impossible to move products correctly... so many points get passed over 5,000 and wasted... leads to anxiety, stress to some... for a measly 100-200 paycheck... which only goes to your autoship...
NOW if you want to be like Dihn to make money... it is possible........ BUT the person you have to be is similar to the life of a "great Preacher"...... If your dream is to be a diamond director.... then your dream is also to be a brainwashing PREACHER and that is where you get max value for the binary compensation plan... that's when you have so many legs and you have more chances for the legs to even out and get lucky...
Idiot! Get a life. You are just making the whole scenario complicated. Why all of you people think so much! Idiots!
DeleteSo you usually don't think before you act, do you?
Deletethe definition of an idiot is doing things without thinking. obviously you were not thinking before you joined USANA because you're saying we are thinking to much..
DeleteBest post and comments I've seen in awhile. Keep it up
ReplyDeleteThe rats are leaving the sinking ship!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhere can you see a Network Marketing compensation plan that your downline / downstream will suddenly become your upstream (after he maxed out his 5,000 legs). Amazing isn't it?
ReplyDeleteex-silver director 2009
Deleteyou can only surpass the person above you a long ways after its been solid.. after 10s of thousands have joined.... even if you surpass the person above you in points that week.. that is only for that week..... in the long run, the person on top is still above you because he is gauranteed more points because eventually all your points pass through the person above you.... being a solid earner is better than a high rank associate...... in other words.. I would rather be a silver director and have one gold director each on my right and one of my left leg than the gold director that surpassed my silver rank... eventually the gold director would only have a few hundred points balanced in his/her legs on average in the long run.. but all those balanced points are all in my one leg.... you see you will need to be in the diamond ranks to even say you can surpass someone above you......
@Watchdog - Got more juicy news out there?
ReplyDeleteJust wondering. If there is no network marketing model, would people still buy USANa products to consume them?
ReplyDeleteClearly becuase USANA has a lot more preferred customers than distributors
DeleteUSANA has had over 2 million distributors since they began in 1992. Only a very small percentage of people who have ever tried USANA are currently purchasing the product today. Most of the product USANA sells is to new distributors who have not dropped out of the pyramid scheme yet.
DeleteWhat is a Pyramid?
DeleteSo what If he goes to differnt company.. That's his decision .. That's his money anyways and his name to protect or destroy .. Get a life ... Your just taking advantage of the popularity of usana to earn from this blog site..
ReplyDeletesay that to all the people he scammed with lies, deceit by using brainwashing tactics. this site helps people make the right decision to make their life better and not waste it on USANA.
Deleteso let me ask you if a kidnapper or killer takes peoples lives and money will you keep saying let them do what they do and get a life? I know USANA is not as evil as this but I know of people losing years of their lives to usana
Wow! What are doing now? Are you still thinking about usana?
DeleteMoises, You have a story. What happened? Why are you seemingly negative about USANA? Where you a member before and failed?
Deletethis is the hater page jajajaja
ReplyDeleteNo not really. Just a page to inform people of what Usana is really like and the tricks they pull to make you pay a lot of money. Have yet to see any Usana associate successful debunk any of the watchdog's points.
ReplyDeleteYou probably get money by misinforming people! You belong to King's Landing you idiot!
DeleteWay better than yourself. You probably get much more money by misinforming and damaging many more people.
DeleteYou guys ever notice that usana associates talk like usana is religion and others are trying to show them what the truth is and associates all still brainwashed? Utah region power strong I tell you. I wonder if I can use URPS to manipulate skinny model type ladies to worship me... Oh wait that's actually happening now in the world.
ReplyDeleteAnd you are very much brainwashed to your own negativity! You dumb idiot!
DeleteSorry for my words.
You people just don't realized the value of network marketing!
Meditate and get a life. You're just soaked to negative things!
You are the one who's totally brainwashed. No matter how successful you might be in your business, your money isn't earned ethically. Think about that.
DeleteAnd we wish Aaron and Cathy good luck. Sometimes we all need a new challenge in our lives and when you reach the top of one company it only makes sense to start anew.
ReplyDeleteHaha, what a jerk you are to have said something like this, hope you didn't really mean what you said.
DeleteTo the poster above. You are forgetting one very important point. Usana is not like any other traditional business. Once You get to the top you earn a significant residual income which is why people get into this business in the first place. If you get up and leave, you sacrifice all that money. The truth is the only logical for Ding to leave is because his downline dried up and he wasn't making any significant money anymore, which by the way is exactly what usana wants - to not have to pay anybody commissions yet take all your money. Ding moved on because usana's comp plan is scheme, which he also played big part in over selling dreams. He moved on to another mlm company where he will over sell that as well. Honestly don't know how these people can look in mirror and feel good about getting rich on other peoples hard earned money knowing they will never make their money back. I would be disgusted with myself too.
ReplyDeletethey are brainwashed.. they don't feel disgusted.. their mind has been controlled by the wealthy.. they have all these diamond directors, and powerful speakers like Dennis Waitley , DR. Oz even want some of this $, so many celebreties paid and act according to $ to make the brainwashing stronger...
DeleteYour words stink! You're just too pessimistic! Get a life! You don't see the value of network marketing! But anyway, bet you are making your bosses in the corporate America become multi-millionaires right!
DeleteHaha good for you idiot!
ex-silver director 2009
Deletethere is value in networking with people to help market.. but there is no value in MLM network marketing.. people in corporate America makes America powerful.. we have big business and a lot of different ideas and GDP to create income for our country..... if all business were like MLM America would fall into poverty.. when I was in USANA, associates talk crap about Doctors and corporate America.... we need them to survive in america... USANA is not going to help you with your Solid achiever paycheck...
what rank are you and how much are you really getting paid.. think about it so you can wake up.. I knew many of my downlines hating their jobs because the influence of USANA with this corporate BS topic... they think corporate America was a horrible system... yet because of corporate America is how they can afford to buy pro-packs, autoship, clothes, gas and food to DO USANA... what income does USANA give you to think highly over it vs. typical American business..... our country is strong because of corporate America not MLM.. you're the IDIOT LOL.. (calling you an idiot does you good so you will notice how dumb you are so you can improve) LOL..
I don't even know why I try to save you fools..
So true!
DeleteThe worst is when they try to brainwash uni students. I'm so glad I got out of this mess
You idiots stinking negative people. You think too much! Bet you get money by using this blog? Idiots! Meditate and find that clear thinking of yours! It's not stepping on other people's lives but it's all about helping people develop themselves and help them reach their dreams!
ReplyDeleteYou're just misinformed probably. Idiots!
But anyway, money is not important for me. It's the learning experience I enjoyed!
Idiots! Get a life! You'll just remain corporate slaves! Good for you!
ex-silver director 2009
DeleteI use to be like that. I was mad at the people that were negative towards usana. I learned that they were negative towards it because USANA is the one that causes the negativity.
Do you see any advertisement on this site? no way to make money so please all USANA associates please use another topic and it doesn't matter anyways if watchdog gets paid or not.
calling people idiots doesn't do you any good
how do you help people develop.. ? the purpose of helping develop is to recruit more to feed the scheme. you don't have to spend thousands to have great experience...
you can do other things to enjoy.. usana has a concert like atmosphere and you can go to a concert with real friends that are not your friends because of the compensation plan.... (away from the brainwash and business)
money is important to pay the bills... usana has caused many to lose $ and become deep in debt by upline's influence.. SOLD to serve the upline who you think is helping you.. in turn spend senselessly to help each other...
on paper everyone is losing mathematically.. this site is helping you win in life by preventing you from serving your life away to an unprofitable business..
there is nothing wrong with corporate life..... you went to school to become a better person... became valuable... your skills are invested in a business businessmen invested in a business to either serve the economy so that money can cycle with services and products.... it's a win win situation for the economy....
USANA everyone loses... wake up and think about it... I woke up after 3 years of HARDWORK invested in USANA..
I'd rather work and earn honestly than learning an evil way to get rich. Love to see you get mad here, bring it on.
ReplyDeleteI agree with ex-silver director 2009.
ReplyDeleteIt took me 3 years to wake up and be back on my mind that i have been working so hard serving my downlines and realizing i am not earning enough, i still push hard that i even granted my upline request of me to resign from my job and do usana fulltime, i was in deep dept just to pay for everything including the monthly authoship until i realized i have been doing all these sacrifices and yet my upline did not even comply to his promise of help even just single spill over, and yet enjoys so much with $$ they earn frm their downlines hardwork.
I knew Aarron personally and worked with him in 2 by 2
ReplyDeleteAlso an ex-Silver here. I drank the Kool-Aid for years, until I realized that to make huge money you have to be a huge dick. My direct sponsor is one of the very top people in Usana; he'll prospect anything that moves and a few things that don't to get a single distributor, and leave 999 broken, bleeding bodies in his wake. But do that for 10 years and you, too, can earn $80,000 as week. I love the products, but they *are* overpriced.
ReplyDeleteEven Michael is from two by two
ReplyDeleteWhat I find interesting about Aaron is that are a lot half truths in his speeches. He never mentions he was married at a young age has a daughter. I guess people do not hear that.
ReplyDeleteAnyone else see Aaron pics from Neriums first big convention? What I find so deceiving and untruthful is while at Usana, Aaron was telling everyone how awesome usanas products were, best on planet, and best comp plan ever. Now he switches to Nerium, and all of a sudden Neriums products and compl plan best ever. Funny how that happens, like magic. Yet fools folllow him.
ReplyDeleteso if anyone read all this and who ever actual filters the comments actually allows me to post this.
ReplyDeleteYou have 2 options boys and girls every up here ^ has a point and they do tell you the truth.
You either
1. Go on with your life and forget a USANA & MLN go to school get a job get payed and make the best of it
Or
2. Gamble with USANA & MLN and make the best of that
In the end you make the choice I been in usana and I had made some money so heres my lesson it has help me but also spend my time and money if you choice the usana path give your self a time line a dead line if you don't make anything by your dead line leave mine was 3 years and stay away from politics while your in it just a waste of time
Focus on building and sales improvement
I've most likely been in the same room as some of this ^ guys and some of them have done some bad things while in MLN but some been good friends of mine good people
You make your mind and go for it with all you have in option 1 or 2
Good luck
So If
ReplyDeleteForget option 2.
The only people that buy Usana products are the associates.
80% drop out within a year. If you set the dead line at three years you could be out a lot of time and money. I would set the dead line at less 3 minutes and not stick around to be cheated..
You are wrong. On this website not every one tells the truth.
You and the" good good" at Usana tend to stretch reality .
Do you know who was put in you up-line today?
You know what, how would you know shit? if you've never been an assiocate or anything then who are you to bloody judge what a company does? You've never sat down and heard how the comp plan works. You wanna know what is really a scam? A job, = just over broke. there are less people getting to corporate through normal jobs, but have you know that people with usana, more of them get there. You're a piece of chicken for hiding behind a blog. You have no purpose in life, and therefore trying to battle with life. Usana changes people for the best, you learn new things and meet new people. Usana has 10,000 benefits. but seems like you simply dont understand.
ReplyDeleteLess than 1% of USANA distributors ever make a profit. Those distributors who fail only do so to enrich the top of the pyramid scheme. One does not need to join a scam to understand what one is. USANA is a scam - a Pyramid Scheme.
DeleteTo this anonymous - OK, then I wish more and more people would quit their jobs to join USANA and get ripped off and brainwashed. That would leave others more job opportunities.
DeleteTsk tsk
Deleteim an ex-associate (2009-2012) and ive been on the products to this day. rev3 surge buyer.
ReplyDeleteUsanawatchdog, please refer to your sources that shows less than 1% is making profits.
ReplyDeleteAaron left because he had to.... When sleeping with a lot of your down line and u get caught..... Aaron's Usana biz was actually in Kathys name and when she found out, she laid out an ultimatum ! So Aaron didn't leave Usana, Kathy made him leave so they could have a fresh start ..... Plus a healthy 6 figure incentive to move also ! So people get your facts straight before making comments ..... Especially YOU MLM watchdog !!
ReplyDeleteDrank the Usana Koolade for 5 years, busted our asses getting to Silver Directors (prospected hard but bought a lot of product to cover our weekly shortfalls too); realized only too late that I was alienating friends and family and strangers and coming across as an asshole. My direct upline is still a huge deal with the company, probably clears about $80K per week by now - I've seen some of his checks. But he's willing to prospect anything that moves and a few things that don't to get where he is. He uses the scattershot approach, finds 2 gold directors in a room of 1000 people but leaves 998 bleeding and broken bodies in his wake. "Some will, some won't, who cares, next" is the mantra, but when your downline starts petering out because prospecting is damned hard, it's tough *not* to care. I finally decided that regardless of the compensation plan, MLM is not an ethical model of doing business because of the roughly 97% failure rate. Yes, everyone deserves a shot, and if you're willing to be ferociously tenacious you can make huge money, but it ended up leaving me with a sick feeling in my gut. The cruise was nice, and the training was useful in other areas of my life, but the overall experience was disappointing. It's a shame I still like their products, because they're so expensive...
ReplyDeletezamm straight. I agree with you.
DeleteI myself was a network marketer with some financial company (not usana) in the past when I was 22 years old and was able to get 9 people to go to convention within 3 weeks . They kept saying that convention will change your downline and make them explode. Yes, they were right, they change their minds NOT to join and explode emotionally disappointed and upset. Wow, it's a freaking pep rally. I never been to usana convention but it's similar and seems better than that financial company I joined. Who knows.
But the point is, you are right that that product is good despite being expensive. Also you are right that many fail and only a selected few 'made' it. But if you are doing recruiting alone in a semi saturated market, you will need a lot of luck. If you are just selling via prefer clients, you have a bit more chance. But if you want to excel, you need to export the product to china or some where else where the product to buy is more expensive. I know someone who is 1/2 recruiting and 1/2 selling to china and got to emerald director in 4 years. She uses the new people's account to buy more stuff so that that new person can become premier pace setters without that person using much of their own money, All she has to do is pay that new person money back. Then once the product arrives at that new person's address, they go get the products. All points will then be added to that person and her account so it's win win.
I am new to network marketing and am with Isagenix. I'm just researching various MLM's. NONE of the things described here happen in Isagenix AT ALL. All of the people I've met are really positive, getting healthier (richer). I am super happy with our products. Reasonably priced. No pressure and all the people we've shared it with like it too. I kind of know a Diamond Director at Usana. Very nice guy. I was hoping to get him to switch, but probably not. I know he'd make a ton more at Isagenix though. Anyway, thanks for enlightening me with your stories. If any of you are interested...reply here and we can talk. Have a great day.
ReplyDeletesilly rabbit..
Deletewhy will diamond director switch to your no name company when he already have a big client base. It's like telling him to start over..leave money on the table. So if he is making say 10k per month already.. he is leaving that on the table and starting with 0 dollars.
You are just like those mlmers who is secretly trying to make others join without pressuring them.
and before you know it.. he will be recruiting YOU! that is why he is 'very nice guy'. There is always a motive with MLMers.. like you too when you post here.
DeleteActually, the top dogs in these MLMs conspire to get put in an existing position that is vacant. These vacant positions are from people who quit earlier. Over the years the downlines under these vacant locations grow and max out the business center. Ask Len Clements about that one. He was given a position in USANA that was once held by a silver director. He basically had one leg completely maxed out and all he had to do is recruit people into his other leg. He failed and dropped out switching to a different MLM instead.
DeleteWhen top dogs leave a MLM, they bring their entire downline with them so they keep the commissions. These people are also very good at recruiting lots of people using boiler room tactics.